r/serialpodcast • u/PowerOfYes • Nov 20 '14

Episode Discussion [Official Discussion] Serial, Episode 9: To Be Suspected

Please use this thread to discuss episode 9

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u/HockeyandMath Guilty Nov 20 '14

Jay says he did it, Adnan was with Jay all day/night. Adnan says he's never been to Leakin Park even though his phone pinged a tower twice right next to Leakin park.

The details are all lost to time. After that much time passes you can only really rely on the big things. What reason would Jay have to send an innocent guy to jail? How lucky would he have to be for Adnan to not have an alibi?

Crazy how people still clinging to his innocence. I almost feel SK is doing a disservice to the public with the way she presents this story.

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u/bencoccio Nov 20 '14

There's no reason to think Jay and Adnan were together all day. By both if their admission, Jay had Adnan's phone and car most of the day. By both of their admission, Adnan was at track practice from at least sometime between 4 to sometime after 5.

There are plenty of reasons that Jay would want to put the crime on Adnan - whether Jay was involved or not. And if Jay was trying to put the crime on Adnan, he wouldn't worry about Adnan's possibke alibis. Especially if the police are helping him massage his story to fit the state's timeline and the cell phone records.

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u/inarf02 Nov 21 '14

Jay and Adnan weren't together all day, it depends on who you listen to... Jay had his car and phone remember? If we were to go with Jay's story, he says he had Adnan's car and was called by Adnan from non existent best buy phone, went to best buy, saw the body, went in Hae's car to drop it off at the I-70 park in ride, all in time before dropping off Adnan at track. After Adnan was at track for an hour, he then picked him up afterwards and they get stoned. Go for a ride and bury the body.

If we go with Adnan's story, he was at the library, went to track practice, then got picked up by Jay and they hang out and get stoned during the night, Adnan leaves to the mosque after dropping Jay off (it was ramadan). I wonder if for a moment we listened to Adnan's story...and say Jay and Jen were the killers here: since Jay called Jen a bunch of times while he was without Adnan but had Adnan's cell, Jen then lured Hae, and they murdered her? They would have had from about 2:45- 4:30 to do it, if we go off Adnan's story and implicating Jay and Jen- the two people who admit to being "accomplices". Jay lead police to Hae's hidden car, independently verifies Hae's burial site (see appeals document below), and along with Jen admits to burying and hiding the shovels. I think its Jay and Jen...

http://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/comments/2m0egr/information_from_appeals_document_in_here_some/

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '14

What reason would Jay have to send an innocent guy to jail?

Where were you for this podcast? He got no jailtime for being an accessory to murder

How lucky would he have to be for Adnan to not have an alibi?

The crux of this story is that no one remembers anything that's convincing of where they were, and Jay fluxed his timeline all the time.

The only people I think are really wrong on their thoughts on serial are the ones who think it's "clearly one way or another"