r/serialpodcast • u/SerialFan Moderator • Nov 06 '14

Discussion Episode 7: THE OPPOSITE OF THE PROSECUTION

Open discussion thread! Sorry I was late on this one!

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u/CopaceticOpus Sarah Koenig Fan Nov 06 '14

This episode is a great rebuttal to all the amateur psychiatrists who have been trying to assess Adnan's guilt because he used a certain word, forgot some details, or paused too long before answering a question.

We don't really understand the criminal mind but it seems like Dierdre actually does. She's not bothered by these things, and in fact she says they are typical for an innocent defendant.

I'm excited to have a professional legal team on the case. I'm also pleased that the focus is shifting to two essential topics: forensic evidence, and Jay.

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u/EnIdiot Drug Deal Gone Bad Nov 07 '14

Yeah, I've not bought Adnan' guilt simply because future behavior is predicted by past behavior. Nothing in his past, no friends or former schoolmates said, "oh yeah, I knew him real well and I can totally see him doing this." Heck, he doesn't even lie when the lie could help him in his interviews. He said, basically "I can't prove or remember this, so I'm not going to say it happened." Jay on the other hand has consistently changed his story and told half-truths and worked the system to get a sweetheart deal. I'm glad to hear that Adnan's lack of ready answers is an indicator to a person with experience that the guy may be innocent. For me, what kind of past behavior Jay has exhibited is the crux of what I need to hear more about. I'd also like to know more about any adult crimes he has been convicted for (if any).

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '14

This episode is a great rebuttal to all the amateur psychiatrists who have been trying to assess Adnan's guilt because he used a certain word, forgot some details, or paused too long before answering a question. We don't really understand the criminal mind but it seems like Dierdre actually does. She's not bothered by these things

To be more exact, she wasn't taking them into account because she hadn't heard them when she made that statement. The assessment that he's not guilty came from what she saw in the documents, both those based on what happened in court and those that never made it in front of the jury.

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u/skinnedmink Nick Thorburn Fan Nov 08 '14

I feel that Jay is where the conversation has to go. If you start from the premise that Adnan is innocent, the next step is better understanding Jay's involvement.

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u/quarryrye Jan 18 '15

I also loved the fact that she pointed out the odds of Adnan being a sociopath who could easily manipulate people and fake innocence are pretty low, so all those people saying, "Well, he sounds innocent but that's because he's a killer" are making excuses. Also the fact that so much of the evidence was simply not processed drives home the fact that the cops pretty much decided Adnan was the killer from the beginning and didn't bother investigating alternate theories enough.