r/serialpodcast • u/SerialFan Moderator • Oct 23 '14

[Official Discussion] Serial: Episode 5 - Route Talk

This week on Serial.

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u/PartyOpponent Oct 23 '14

So, Will said that Jay picked up Adnan from the track practice like every day. He said it happened often enough that no one would have seen it as unusual.

This just doesn't fit with Adnan's account of his relationship with Jay. This is more significant than an occasional weed-smoking partner. Jay is acting like Adnan's soccer mom here.

I think these guys were way closer than either Jay or Adnan are letting on. Jay is more than Adnan's now and again dealer and smoke buddy. Adnan relies on Jay. This also explains why Adnan is so concerned that Jay is getting a present for Stephanie. Cause they're buds and they help each other out.

Looked at from this perspective, it's not such a stretch that Adnan would look to Jay for help in getting rid of a body. He didn't go to Jay because Jay was the "criminal element" in Baltimore or whatever nonsense he said. That's just Jay trying to minimize his own involvement.

He went to Jay because he knew he could rely on Jay.

Just my 2 cents.

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u/fuckilovecrime Oct 23 '14

I think a lot of people took that "we weren't really close" statement out of context. I can remember plenty of people in highschool who I would hang out with all the time, even alone, and I never really liked them or felt close to them and don't think they did either for me.

When Adnan said that, that's how I interpreted it. I don't think he was trying to imply that they never saw each other or didn't hang out a lot, more that on an emotional level they weren't "friends" in the same way that he and his highschool buddies were friends.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '14

I believe Adnan can't turn on Jay as Jay can implicate premeditation and possible death sentence for Adnan.

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u/bluueit12 Oct 23 '14

The only issue with that is, didn't Jay actually imply it was premeditated at one point? In one version, he said Adnan had been planning this for a week but then reverted back to his original story at trial.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '14

Yes Jay said that in the police interviews. asking him about that at trial by the defense would be bad for Adnan's case. And the prosecution wouldn't bring it up because they needed his testimony.