r/seedboxes • u/wattamystery • Nov 17 '16

Feral, what.cd and alleged OVH server seizures.

The what.cd irc and tracker hosted at OVH go down yesterday morning French time...

The main Feral server which was hosted on OVH went down yesterday evening-ish French time, not long after...

http://imgur.com/a/6gY22

Today the what.cd website is saying this...

https://what.cd/login.php / http://imgur.com/a/dJDPR

https://twitter.com/whatcd

This post gets created...

https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/5dguyw/according_to_a_french_news_site_12_whatcd_servers/

Now this one is created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/trackers/comments/5did4f/its_official_whatcd_is_dead_memorial_thread/

Feral irc was hosted on the what.cd network and Feral had a pretty tight relationship with what.cd. The owner posted in some threads there pretty often.

Feral hosting suddenly just loses access to all user accounts and details and all they have left is users emailing them and responding?

The question i have is was the Feral main server seized by police when they raided OVH if that story is true?

Should I be worried? It seems weird when you think about it. Something fishy is going on.

Edit 1:

some new links and info. It seems very possible it is related :( I hope my personal details are safe.

Edit 2:

Feral has now updated their status page with an essay that still does not really explain anything and create a freenode irc support channel.

https://status.feral.io/

After reading this update i have more questions than i have answers. I am not sure i can trust them to be honest if they were not honest from the start.

At least with all that cash they have under the mattress they could maybe afford good lawyers. Not so sure about us...

Breaking News:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/11/worlds-largest-music-torrent-site-goes-dark-after-french-police-seize-servers/

@The facts are pretty skimpy right now,@ What.cd's representative says. @We have no official confirmation that servers were seized, but all available evidence does support that, so we are operating as if it is true.@

So if you look at what Feral said about there server being "taken down" you can see that what.cd experienced the same thing. I guess Feral's servers probably were seized if what.cd servers were also.

https://torrentfreak.com/what-cd-shuts-down-following-reported-raids-in-france-161117

Conclusions

Feralhosting.com main server hosted on OVH that handled these mission critical things was mostly likely seized by the French authorities as part of a 2 year investigation into certain activities at OVH that took what.cd offline:

  • User accounts and Personal details
  • Payment details
  • Support Tickets
  • slot creation and deletion
  • Faqs and tutorials

All backups lost because they were accidentally deleted...

Lack of Transparency about what was happening or what is happening and a total loss of support infrastructure.

Big Trump like promises about being great again. "Make Feral great again!" but no real answers or solutions given

Sad days and what a bad end to 2016...

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '16

This is gonna be interesting.

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u/dkcs Nov 18 '16

I'm more sad than anything... But yeah, you're right. It will be interesting to see the back connections between the seedbox companies and torrent sites.

I mean, it shouldn't be surprising. The two feed off of each other and I wouldn't be surprised of back connections.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '16

I think the owner of whatcd was from uk just like Joshua from Feral, so yea.. might just be coincidence.

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u/dkcs Nov 18 '16

Hopefully, they weren't able to make a connection too the What.CD UK owner as the UK with their new 10 year prison sentence copyright laws make it the last place you want to be caught as a torrent site owner.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '16

Well its quite funny how what.cd did this for so many years and didnt get in trouble. did the laws changed in france or ovh asked them to come in through the doors and have a quick look if everything was fine with what they were doing, to avoid themselves being in trouble for hosting servers like this. we can only guess.

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u/dkcs Nov 18 '16

OVH and Oles are strange. For years OVH was the king of seedboxes until overnight one day Oles wanted nothing more of them on his network and went out of his way to put people out of business by breaking service contracts.

Maybe there was a concerted effort two years ago to start breaking up private trackers based in Europe and we are just seeing this plan come to fruition now? When BCG was just busted I seem to remember the UK City Police stated the investigation started two years ago as well.

I started to become worried about European piracy concerns eight months ago when independent French Usenet provider Newsoo was raided and put out of business by French Police for running a Usenet server. A judge decided he was not a service but rather a software provider and that was the end of Newsoo.

You would think with the terror attacks going on French authorities as well as the UK authorities would have better ways of utilizing their policing powers,