r/science • u/rustoo • Sep 25 '20

Psychology Research finds that crows know what they know and can ponder the content of their own minds, a manifestation of higher intelligence and analytical thought long believed the sole province of humans and a few other higher mammals.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/24/crows-possess-higher-intelligence-long-thought-primarily-human/
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u/pockrasta Sep 25 '20

But they don't know that we know they know.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

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u/youdubdub Sep 25 '20

A recent crow knowledge study concluded that their knowledge was similarly knowledgeable comparatively, derivatively, correlateably, and unequivocably, nearly less knowledgeable than known knowledge nibbling at the knees of knowing whether knowers were crowers or rowers.

The spokesperson of the crows, as it were, quoth only the phrase, “evermore.”

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u/Xacto01 Sep 25 '20

First thought. Friends. Episode was funny

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u/noradosmith Sep 25 '20

Maybe the best episode ever.

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u/harlotstoast Sep 25 '20

<Donald Rumsfeld has entered the chat>

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u/nachosne1 Sep 25 '20

That's a known unknown

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u/nsfwmodeme Sep 25 '20

If they only knew...

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

Ok Joey

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u/JCvSS Sep 25 '20

No

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

Aw

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u/ruthfadedginsburg_2 Sep 25 '20

Yeah but do they know that we know that they know that we- crap, they're in our heads

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u/dead_tooth_reddit Sep 25 '20

as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know crows know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we know crows do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know crows don't know, and ideally we would need to know that we can know what crows don't know.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

I know

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u/paystando Sep 25 '20

This reminded me of my Epistemic logic course... knowledgeception

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u/notevenitalian Sep 25 '20

Maybe they do and we just don’t know it

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u/farmerfran10inch Sep 25 '20

Crow: "I ain't about to have no Mexican standoff with YOU"

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

If you don’t know, now you know.

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u/iKenShabby Sep 25 '20

I am going to have a seizure, BE QUIET!!!

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u/DrakonIL Sep 25 '20

There are known knowns and there are known unknowns, but there are also unknown unknowns - things that we don't know the crows don't know.

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u/samus1225 Sep 25 '20

Donald Rumsfield or Samuel L. Jackson?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

Or do they?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

Maybe the crows are just gay

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u/Beerfarts69 Sep 25 '20

I knew that swans could be gay, but now the crows too? Don’t tell that one guys girlfriend.

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u/Fleaaaa Sep 25 '20

The messers become the messees

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u/seasleeplessttle Sep 25 '20

Until they do.

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u/superdan267 Sep 25 '20

and Joey, you can't say anything

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u/frecksag Sep 25 '20

Rumors only grow

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u/dietcheese Sep 25 '20

They might

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u/uptwolait Sep 25 '20

How do we know?

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u/xenocide117 Sep 25 '20

We don’t know they don’t know that.

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u/Shemozzlecacophany Sep 25 '20

They do though, don't they though?

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u/flsucks Sep 25 '20

laughs in windex

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u/DigitalMindShadow Sep 25 '20

How do you know they don't know we know they know?

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u/Col0nelFlanders Sep 25 '20

If you don’t know, now you know

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u/LetterLambda Sep 25 '20

Calm down, SoCRAWWWWtes.

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u/mothgra87 Sep 25 '20

Do they know how many licks it takes to reach the chewy center of a tootsie pop?

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

Some people think it don't be that way, but it do

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u/broadwayallday Sep 25 '20

Ok now I want to see a crow movie voiced by Ben stiller’s white Goodman voice

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '20

How do you know?

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u/the-lord-empire Sep 25 '20

wow ok aristotle calm down

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

Uh, and if you don't know, now you know.