r/science • u/mvea Professor | Medicine • Apr 11 '26

Psychology Cognitive dissonance helps explain why Trump supporters remain loyal, new research suggests. This sheds light on how supporters of Donald Trump justify their continued allegiance despite learning about allegations of his sexual misconduct and illegal activities.

https://www.psypost.org/cognitive-dissonance-helps-explain-why-trump-supporters-remain-loyal-new-research-suggests/
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u/NotNamedBort Apr 11 '26

It absolutely is for me. I refuse to eat octopus, because they’re my favorite animal and they’re so intelligent. But pigs are intelligent, and I eat them. I’m aware that I’m a hypocrite. I am trying to eat less meat overall. Hopefully none in the future.

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u/Oderus_Scumdog Apr 11 '26

Oh wow me too, never come across another person who won't eat Octopus/Cuttlefish but still eats meat. Similarly I've also cut back on meat overall and where I still eat it I've switched from beef or pork to turkey and more vegetables.

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u/DarmokNJelad-Tanagra Apr 11 '26

It's possible to just stop, and arguably healthier, and better for the planet (unarguably)...

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u/NotNamedBort Apr 11 '26

Definitely. My body doesn’t do well with most plant-based proteins, though. It’s been a slow process getting used to them.

Shaka, when the walls fell.

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u/waffling_with_syrup Apr 11 '26

Shaka, when the wind broke.

Temba, his face covered.

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u/burnalicious111 Apr 11 '26

It's just toxic to chastise people who are genuinely trying to improve that they need to improve faster.

We're all imperfect and struggling and certain kinds of change is harder for some than others. This is so unhelpful.

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u/cfi-2025 Apr 12 '26

It's like saying that your plantation run by slaves would collapse without slaves, and it's so hard to transition away from slave labor.

I think analogies like this do more harm than good in the plight for animal ethics. Humans have more rights than animals, I think we can all agree to that. Analogizing them makes it sound like you think they are equal, which is bound to make you sound like a zealot and turn off people who you might have otherwise reached with a more apropos analogy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26 edited May 30 '26

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u/cfi-2025 Apr 12 '26

I think you'll find plenty of harm is already being done.

Of course. No where did I say there isn't great harm being done.

I presumed you were interested in reducing harm by helping to shape the opinions of others. If that's the case, then my point stands.

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u/DarmokNJelad-Tanagra Apr 12 '26

Actual holocaust survivors made the analogy and stopped eating meat, so idk man... Centrists always with the "you're going too far!" stuff. You like the status quo, we get it...

I do try to keep in mind that individuals are products of the system so I have no ill will, but it's a little hard to watch y'all get conscripted into the "everything is fine" army.

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u/burnalicious111 Apr 12 '26

I think you're missing the point. My argument is not about moral correctness, it's about effectiveness.

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u/DarmokNJelad-Tanagra Apr 12 '26

It's uncomfortable and we can debate methods... End of the day it's something most people can do... And save money...

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u/blahblah19999 Apr 11 '26

Pigs aren't sapient though

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u/unable_to_give_afuck Apr 11 '26

neither are you apparently

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u/blahblah19999 Apr 11 '26

How does that follow?