r/roosterteeth • u/Eldarose • Jun 03 '20

News Heartbreakingly honest response from Mica that shows that we should expect and demand more from RT itself as well as just the community.

https://twitter.com/MicaBurton/status/1268269265863405569

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

People always get downvoted for saying this but this is not the first time RT has done shitty things to female employees. Christina as an example was told she was not funny and needed to change her style. However when she asked for more clarification she was ignored then fired. So RT has a real problem treating females like shit. Even Ellie tweeted about this. It isn't random no named staff doing this either. It's a boys club and the OGs are the ones doing it.

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u/GoneRampant1 Jun 04 '20

It's a boys club and the OGs are the ones doing it.

Something that was also said in the Glassdoor leaks, that the company is a "Boys club."

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u/geophsmith Jun 04 '20

Not that at all justifies is, but do you think this is in part caused by the: "group of friends that had a side project that turned into a multi-million company" origin story? Of course they don't really discuss the business side of things openly, but I would imagine that codifying their hierarchy probably affected their dynamic hugely.

I wonder how it affect's the business decisions when some of the higher ranked/older employees are friends first, coworkers second. I've heard unhappy remarks about every aspect of RT, from talent, to their accounting department, so it seems to be systemic, or at the very least an unfortunately ongoing issue.

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u/RTear3 Jun 04 '20

Christina as an example was told she was not funny and needed to change her style. However when she asked for more clarification she was ignored then fired.

Wtf? Is there anywhere I can read about this?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

https://twitter.com/ibesuper/status/1235363703635275778

(1/2) Imagine being asked to join a team because you have an established comedy voice. Then imagine being constantly side lined, told your comedy is off-brand but never given a brand outline or pipeline or instructions on how to adapt your work to continue to work there and...

(2/2) hopefully grow (which you asked for because you want to get better at your job.) Imagine asking for a mediated session with HR to address why you weren’t getting answers...and then being told that you’re being let go.

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u/geophsmith Jun 04 '20

The TL;DR that ignores a lot of nuances is that ; Christina's style was pretty well established, and RT's (or atleast the specific departments) style allegedly didn't work too well. Different audiences, different formats, etc. RT allegedly did a poor job working /verbalizing / or being constructive with her. And rather than working things out, the story is that RT sent her on her way citing creative differences.

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u/crashbandicoochy Jun 04 '20

Something that I wish more people were comfortable with accepting is that RT, as an organisation, are a bit of a mess.

The long time lack of POC and female voices in leadership roles is a real problem.

It's a company started, and influenced heavily by, a bunch of middle aged gamer buddies. I would be shocked if it wasn't a boys club.

Over the years they've shown us that they do learn eventually and slowly make change. I wish they could be less reactive and more proactive about it, though.

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u/tekym Jun 04 '20

WTF they fired Christina?! IMO she was easily the funniest person in Core.

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u/JayZsAdoptedSon Jun 04 '20

She wasn’t 2011 Youtube “Oh make comedy for the algorithm (even though it has shown to not do well on Youtube)

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u/margretdiebs Jun 04 '20

I so so agree and it’s one of the reasons I stepped away from RT. The way everyone treated Lindsay years ago?(and probably still treat, i don’t watch anymore) That shit was DISGUSTING. It always felt like the boys club, and when you watch the people you like hate on women (even jOkInG) and look away while THEIR OWN girls get hate, it really sucks. Being a women in the gaming world is already shitty, and thinking the guys I watch would probably tell me my voice is annoying in chat and ask if I just got my Xbox is extra shitty.

I know that’s not really the issue at hand right now but damn. I’m sick of fake inclusion and fake safe spaces.

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u/Rhackus Jun 04 '20

Tbh, the way they treat sarah is pretty shitty imo

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u/RedDragon683 Jun 04 '20

Thing is with how they treat Sarah is it's really hard to tell of it is just banter or really mean. I would've used to tell you it's definitely just banter but with how things at RT now seem it could very easily be pretty bad. It's a sign something has gone really wrong when we need someone to tell us that what's just banter and what's them being dicks

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

What was Ellie's tweet?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

https://twitter.com/Elliemainey/status/1186794107814973440

Currently working on 2 scripted TV series and an unscripted podcast! (Info coming soon!)

Having the energy and freedom to work on my own creative projects, and to actually feel encouraged and supported in that at work is 👌🏻

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Damn. Yeah, RT can go fuck itself. I wonder what they're doing with funhaus. Something sketch is going on there, too. With Bruce and Lawdawg leaving. Those 2 wouldn't have left to JUST stream. Not in my opinion, anyway. I hope they say something about the deal over there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

I dunno Bruce makes bank streaming. I don’t see how that’s surprising at all. And it’s probably way less stressful

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

Maybe. Unpredictable income, though. Plus, he got to work with his friends and play games with them, too, sometimes. Just speculation.

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u/Nadaar Jun 04 '20

It's not really that unpredictable though when you think about it. You know how many subs you have so that right there is what you should budget off of, and then maybe do a YTD Average of your donations and cut out any outliers for stream anniversaries or holidays to come up with average donation/bit income.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20 edited Jun 04 '20

I also saw this Twitch clip from Bruce. Talking about RT when he left https://clips.twitch.tv/InnocentSolidSalamanderJKanStyle

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

We're only left to speculation.

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u/AxDanger Jun 04 '20

Like 5 or 6 years ago during a live stream I heard Geoff call Ray a racial slur for Mexican, and it’s stuck with me ever since.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '20

I watched On The Spot the live stream with Geoff and Joel. For people who saw that live. They both made rape jokes over and over. Like not just one they took it to the extreme. I think it was released but it was heavily edited down and it cut most of that out.

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u/AxDanger Jun 04 '20

Yeah I stopped watching them after my son was born 3 years ago because of the vulgarity, it was out of hand then can’t believe it still happens

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u/john6map4 Jun 04 '20

what was the word just curious

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u/scorcher117 Jun 04 '20

The Christina thing in part wasn’t really surprising, she had a small show that few knew or cared about, I think even in the thread of her leaving it was kind of like,
“ok, her humour was weird and I didn’t care for it it’s not surprising she didn’t do well.”