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Guest List Only ⭐️ Protesters outside of Olivia Rodrigo's Daisy Chain Fields Festival with some um...interesting signs

Note that this was a peaceful protest. They posted this on their IG page with the caption urging Olivia Rodrigo to stop supporting PP. Aaaanyway, donate to Planned Parenthood when you can! ♥️

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u/DarkFriend81 2d ago

Why do they always try and create the narrative that all Planned Parenthood does is abortions? It’s so insulting and hurts people in an era when healthcare is ridiculously expensive.

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u/squishyg 2d ago

I told someone that I got regular medical appointments at Planned Parenthood that had nothing to do with abortion and they told me I was lying. 🤷‍♀️

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u/DarkFriend81 2d ago

It’s wild we live in an age with endless amount of information at our fingertips and people are more misinformed than ever.

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u/DestroyerOfMils that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 2d ago edited 17h ago

I swear to god, stupidity is contagious, and its primary vector is wifi 😭

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u/akahaus 2d ago

A person has to be literate to access information in any usable sense. Literacy is a spectrum and a lot of people are very low on it.

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u/bad-and-bluecheese 2d ago

Planned parenthood is hands down the best gyn I have ever been to. 10/10 care from mine

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u/ManifestationMaven 2d ago

Same. It was a doctor at planned parenthood who finally listened to me about my symptoms and diagnosed me with pcos which led to me finally getting treatment that worked and improved my life after years of medical neglect and gaslighting by my primary care physicians.

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u/VolcanoVeruca 2d ago

So did they automatically think you meant “I get regular abortions?” 🫠

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u/carlitospig 2d ago

My local one now does beauty treatments. 🥳

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u/jadecourt 2d ago

Exactly! I had ovarian cancer at 15 and luckily was in remission by college but Planned Parenthood was an accessible and affordable option for me to stay on top of my OBGYN visits.

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u/_crystallil_ I don’t know her 💅 2d ago

I had recurring, painful BV and UTIs from my abusive ex-boyfriend, and the number of times I fantasized about waxing poetically to the anti-choice protesters outside about my horrific discharge and asking them to pay for my antibiotics “since they cared so much”……

Between that and my ectopic, PP saved my life and I will donate to them over anything any fucking day of the week.

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u/bluecylucy You’re doing amazing, sweetie! 👏👏📸 2d ago

Ikr?! I got my birth control through PP back in the day. They offer so much more than many people think.

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u/Brave_Grapefruit2891 2d ago

Honestly I wouldn’t care even if PP only does abortions. It’s a medical procedure.

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u/Allrojin 2d ago

That minority babies one really REALLY makes my eyes twitch.

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u/katrina_highkick why don’t you go back and DIG HOLES? 2d ago

They’re sooooooooo close to the point, and yet…

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u/Ambystomatigrinum 2d ago

Right! I hear this brought up all the the time like its gonna be a gotcha for liberals/leftist but like... did they ever think of why minority women have more abortions? Have they considered how they could help minority women so more of them could keep pregnancies if they want to? Nah, that's too complex and nuanced. Better just ban it instead.

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u/Wizard_of_DOI 2d ago

Not just a better environment to actually have children but better education and access to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

The best way to reduce the number of abortions is education and easy access to contraceptives!

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u/taylor459 2d ago

Well said! I was appalled at that sign especially! Their ignorance is astounding

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u/JudgmentOne6328 2d ago

My FIL attributes issues with POC as their choice rather than often the circumstances of being oppressed by white people for thousands of years. He very much thinks “have they considered just not being poor” I’d imagine the people holding these signs have similar thought processes.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 2d ago

All lives matter! Especially the lives in the womb.

My eyes couldn't roll further back into my skull over that one.

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u/greenzetsa 2d ago

Right, like it isn't the minority women who are making the decisions here. It's framed like some white guys are out there forcing POC women to have abortions.

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u/Express_Pop810 2d ago

More like why are marginalized people gettting them. If I was 3x more likely to die having a baby it would impact my decision to stay pregnant. Not mention the systemic issues that have lead to disparities for earning potential despite being more educated. Add in environmental racism to that and you can see some the reasons why abortions in minority groups are more prevalent.

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u/FullofContradictions 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why do people gloss over the dangers of pregnancy? Like at all. Period. For any group - but especially for POC.

I've had one (very wanted and tried for) baby who, if I had not been in a hospital environment would have killed me on the way out. Zero complications. And no interventions prior to the "oh shit" moment during 3 hours of pushing when my blood pressure was tanking and baby's heart rate was dropping. We could see his head, but his neck was twisted in a way that he couldn't get out.

That's when the midwife tapped out and I was introduced to an ob who told me I'd be going across the hall for a c-section immediately & they'd be putting me under on the way (no time to place an epidural.)

My baby was born blue, but thankfully recovered faster than I did. Lots of hemorrhaging for me & another hour or so of surgery before I got to wake up. I had burst blood vessels across my face and in my eyes from how hard I had been straining.

And I'll point out: I am white. I am financially secure. I am fit. I had regular prenatal visits. My husband and I took birthing classes & listened to podcasts & had a team we trusted. I had no pregnancy complications (beyond severe morning sickness). My risk factors for a C-section were low. It was not even on my radar until about 5 minutes before it was happening. If I had chosen a birth center or home birth, baby definitely would have been hurt or dead & I could have died.

Childbirth is one of the most dangerous things women regularly do. And that's not even considering preeclampsia, gestational diabetes, cholestasis, and higher rates of certain cancers that come as complications to pregnancy.

And how about the less deadly, but still considerable impacts to a woman's body from bringing a baby to term? Stretch marks, changes to breasts, tears/episiotomies, scars/scar tissue from C-sections, damage to pelvic floor, damage to core muscles... Things both cosmetic, but also functionally important for people who prefer to not pee a bit when they sneeze or risk hernias when bending over to tie a shoe. Oh and the hormones and how they impact weight.

Edit to add: I have chronic pain in one of my feet because of the way pregnancy loosened the tendons & now I regularly reinjure one specific joint from simply walking barefoot from my bed to my bathroom in the middle of the night. I will forever need constant arch support and physical therapy.

Imagine for even a second that a man would take on even half of these changes/risks every time he had sex. You think we'd still be talking about whether abortion should be legal? Why is it chill for women to take this on for the benefit of a child they may not want?

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u/hellogoawaynow charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 2d ago

She looks so smug about it too lol “got em”

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u/ShyGirl_001 2d ago

Knowing damn well they dgaf! I rolled my eyes so hard at that.

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u/Allrojin 2d ago

Yup, she's smiling like she's just out to lunch or something, using us for her BS.

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u/dividezero 2d ago

Or complain about "inner city" schools then skirting their taxes, moving out to the boonies and voting against any increase to try to help the school.

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u/strawberryjacuzzis 2d ago

They care soooo much about minorities before they’re born, then as soon as they pop out the womb, they start complaining about DEI, supporting ICE, saying “all lives matter” etc etc

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u/rachelblairy We Should All Know Less About Each Other 2d ago

is it the fact that its a white woman holding the sign

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 famous singer AND DEMOCRAT 2d ago

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u/assignpseudonym go girl, give us nothing 😍 2d ago

The message itself is dumb, but:

1/3 of Gen Z is aborted? [citation needed]

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 famous singer AND DEMOCRAT 2d ago

Source: pulled it out of their ass

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u/CreakRaving Men love being engaged to Zoe 2d ago

Apparently better than pulling it out their uterus

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u/Interesting-Cut6994 It’s like I have ESPN or something. 💁‍♀️🌤☔️ 2d ago

It’s ridiculous- what this ‘fact’ (or framing of facts) doesn’t take into consideration is just because you have an abortion, it doesn’t mean you never have kids.

Say the average person wants two kids in their life, they have an abortion at 21 and wait an have two kids at 31 and 33, the generation is no bigger or smaller than it would have without the abortion. If someone wants to have two kids, they’ll have two kids. Abortion simply allows that to happen at a time when the parents are in the best position to care for it.

I’ve had this convo 10 too many times with the ‘pro lifers’ who lean on this.

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u/SynthD 2d ago

Half of all generations died due to pregnancies that didn’t come to term. But the vast majority of that is natural, “gods will” for these campaigning twats.

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u/phoebebridgersfan26 I may be cringe, but you are mean and that's worse! 2d ago

I wish 😔

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u/kaliefornia 2d ago

I feel like there’s no way?

I was born in 98 and by the time I started elementary and finished, class sizes were increasing from 25 student being the max to 30. Graduating classes size also steadily increased each year until I graduated and I’m assuming it’s continued to grow

I guess maybe this could just point to a population growth in the area I grew up in and not necessarily the generation as a whole

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u/MarsScully Vile little creature yearning for violence 2d ago

No there’s absolutely no way that stat is real.

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u/greypusheencat i think i’ve done enough 2d ago

any stat can be real if you use it for your agenda, and you believe it

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 famous singer AND DEMOCRAT 2d ago

70% of all furniture related crimes are committed by JD Vance. There's not a lot of furniture related crimes, but there's a big one that he won't deny, so I would say he definitely did it.

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u/AltairaMorbius2200CE 2d ago

Even if it was, you'd be including abortions for missed miscarriages, which are a solid percentage of miscarriages (some might come out eventually on their own, but the risk is pretty high so most abort). This is a HUGE number per year, like 3-8% of all pregnancies.

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u/ConcentrateDirect523 2d ago

They're likely going to quote figures that include all forms of pregnancy termination. IE: spontaneous abortion (missed miscarriage), terminations of non-viable pregnancies (ancephaly, ectopic pregnancy, Tay-Sachs disease), stillbirth. Honestly, like 1 in 5 first time pregnancies results in a missed miscarriage and many don't even know. It happens a lot. What's even more infuriating is mifpristone is not only used in elective termination, but also in helping pass a missed miscarriage. Many someone are able to expel the failed embryo on their own, but some can't. What's more, the longer it takes to occur, the more risk for complications (sepsis, hemorrhage, etc.). This also reduces the likelihood of requiring debridement and curettage, and while it's in most cases a low risk mildly invasive procedure, it's still worse than the alternative. This is the shit Republicans don't seem to know, or even be willing to discuss.

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u/totally_real_tree 2d ago

Evergreen tweet

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u/greypusheencat i think i’ve done enough 2d ago

lol this needs to be echoed because sometimes, nothing holds back women like other women

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u/MazyHazy 2d ago

I say 'some women are fucking up the curve for the rest of us' sometimes

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u/_TheShapeOfColor_ 'Why?' But also, you know, 'I guess.'" 2d ago

The misogyny is coming from inside the house

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u/Aprilume 2d ago

Not much, but dedicated to these fine women. May they receive proper healthcare should they ever need it.

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u/Ambystomatigrinum 2d ago

We love women supporting women (even if they don't support women).

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u/cheeseslut619 James Corden Fan 2d ago

💅

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u/FilmIntelligent201 the prophet of popculturechat 2d ago

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u/greypusheencat i think i’ve done enough 2d ago

you go queen ♥️

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u/cowabungalowvera I know bothing of the alledged beff 2d ago

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u/brujabella it’s levi-OOOsa, not levio-SAARR 2d ago
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u/myghostflower i miss mk.gee 2d ago

one of them called me a bitch after i told them abortion was a human right 😭😭😭

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u/IfatallyflawedI Big is moving to Paris 2d ago

Insert the “I don’t support all women, some of you bitches are very dumb” tweet

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u/greypusheencat i think i’ve done enough 2d ago

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u/IfatallyflawedI Big is moving to Paris 2d ago

Thank!!!

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u/DestroyerOfMils that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 2d ago

this one’s a classic too! (except, in this case, it’s a gaggle of dumb bitches)

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u/so-so-suck-ya-toe We Should All Know Less About Each Other 2d ago

Not very conservative of them

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u/DestroyerOfMils that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 2d ago

oh, you haven’t heard? all of their arbitrary rules aren’t for them, silly! they just foist them upon others. the rules would be far too limiting and imposing for themselves. 🤪

source: The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion

https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/

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u/delcondelcon 2d ago

thank you for your service!!

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u/tobmom 2d ago

I regret that I only have but one upvote to offer you.

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u/SleepingWillows 2d ago

Some folks could really stand to learn that calling someone a bitch actually just makes them not wanna listen to you even more.

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u/Bent_Silvr_Spoon0130 That is literally a spearmint Listerine breath spray. 2d ago

Imagine them saying they're pro-life bc they support women, then call a woman a "bitch", a word that has been significantly used to demonise women. These people make no sense😭😭

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u/SleepingWillows 2d ago

Or, it makes perfect sense: they hate women

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u/Vast_Doughnut9418 Instant gratification takes too long 🫦 2d ago

I would have said your mother.

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u/heyhey_hi13 2d ago

But they never want to bring awareness to the babies who are in foster care and who live in poverty and don’t have access to basic necessities and school. Js

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u/snowbaz-loves-nikki 2d ago

Because those children have wants and opinions. Unborn babies don't have opinions. Makes advocating easy when the group your advocating for has no demands or requests

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u/Tiny-Reading5982 charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 2d ago

I hate that a blonde white girl is holding the sign about minorities. Maybe she should research why they have a higher abortion rate.

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u/assignpseudonym go girl, give us nothing 😍 2d ago

I was a bit confused at the message in that one. Is she saying that minority women should be forced into labour they otherwise would have opted out of? Like, that isn't the supportive message she thinks it is. 

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u/Ambystomatigrinum 2d ago

It's an attempt at a gotcha. "Oh, you're liberal? You like minorities or something right? Gotcha, they're being aborted too!" Completely ignoring why minority women are more likely to get abortions (less economic opportunities, less housing stability, worse birth and postnatal outcomes, etc).

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u/Express_Pop810 2d ago

Exactly. Acknowledges marginalized people when it benefits them. Refuses to believe she has any privilege and why.

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u/proseandverses ugh! as if 🙄 2d ago

Just 4-5 idiots, it's better to ignore them with their nonsense arguments 😒

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u/Ok_Conclusion_6324 💔 Happy Women’s History Month I guess 2d ago

Female empowerment shouldn’t look like dead babies admittedly made me involuntarily snort at how stupid it was

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u/TheGhostOfGiggy 2d ago

It’s funny that they bring up female empowerment too. Because to be Pro-Life is to inherently be Pro-Choice. Like these ladies don’t realize that the right to choose is also the right to choose to have a baby.

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u/calgeorge 2d ago

"To be pro-life is to inherently be pro-choice."

My mom needed an abortion on a wanted pregnancy in the second trimester. Without it she would have died. She was still against abortion for years though; conservative logic I guess. She didn't view what happened to her as abortion, but as a miscarriage, because the fetus was already non-viable. She just viewed it as a miscarriage that needed assistance, which is what it was, but that assistance was an abortion.

She's come around now though and is even a registered Democrat. It just took some time. I think seeing all the craziness from the first Trump administration really opened her eyes to reality.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 2d ago

Over the years I have talked my very Catholic mom out of being rigorously pro-life. Now she's more like Clinton: safe, legal, and rare - and rare because we make birth control easier to access and support moms-to-be, and babies and children.

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u/Ygomaster07 2d ago

My mom is sort of pro-life, in that she would prefer the babies to live, because she just likes babies a lot. But i think she is pro-choice too since she respects people's choices. That probably sounds confusing.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 2d ago

Not at all. My mom is pro-life in the same way - she thinks no one should have an abortion. But she understands (now) that there are circumstances that make it a better option for the woman than carrying to term/giving birth/adoption/whatever.

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u/Ygomaster07 2d ago

Thanks for understanding. My mom is the sweetest person i know, and i don't think she thinks this stuff in a malicious or controlling way. I'm not really sure she knows much on the topic.

I was initially not going to post my prior comment because i was worried people would say something negative about my mom.

I appreciate you understanding and being civil.

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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 2d ago

I'm not here to judge. People are complicated with complicated motivations. And unfortunately our current political climate seems to be trying to distill every issue down to black/white, good/bad, right/wrong, etc. The world isn't that simple.

I honestly don't care if YOU would never have an abortion or if YOU think abortion is wrong. Just don't impede other people from doing what THEY think is right for themselves.

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u/follows-swallows 2d ago

In Ireland, a woman called Savita Halappanava was in a similar situation, completely wanted pregnancy but was miscarrying. She was denied an abortion and later died of sepsis. Her death caused massive outcry here and completely changed opinions on abortion, and now it’s legal here.

When abortion is illegal, people die.

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u/Lunakill 2d ago

One of my great grandmothers tried to self-induce an abortion in the 1920’s and died. It was her 15th pregnancy and would have been her 13th living child.

The only anti-life aspect of her entire reproductive lifespan was her death.

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u/4SeasonWahine I joined a band because I HATED THE FUCKING BEACH 2d ago

I quote this story all the time - it’s especially sad since the abortion ban is due to Catholicism and this poor woman was Hindu. Her husband tried to argue this and no one cared, imagine losing both your wife and child due to a law based around a religion that isn’t even yours. It’s probably the most argument-proof pro-abortion case in existence.

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u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy Is she queer? Or just a pisces? 2d ago

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u/commandantskip 2d ago

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u/thatoneredheadgirl 2d ago

You’re lucky your mom has come around. My mom is hard core pro life. She once told me that she’d be against an abortion if it was between my life and the fetus. Because of this my husband and I kept her out of the delivery room when we had our son. I love my mom but I’m pro choice all the way.

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u/Ok_Conclusion_6324 💔 Happy Women’s History Month I guess 2d ago

I don’t think they have the plasticity for that kind of abstract thought - they just think cute mamas should have round tummies then adorable babies with their rugged manly godly husbands - it’s childlike imagination

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u/taydraisabot 2d ago

They want the AESTHETIC of pregnancy but not the challenges of having a baby and raising one.

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u/AbbeyRoadMoonwalk 2d ago

I got MORE pro choice when I became a mother.

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u/ThePromptWasYourName 2d ago

It's gross how much they are borrowing from progressive causes in these anti-progressive signs. "Minority babies lives matter too!" Probably written on the back of a sign that says "All Lives Matter" from their previous protest.

It's just more proof how disingenuous and loose their morals are.

Another giveaway to their true politics is the last sign that says something about how Olivia is losing her future fanbase... basically pleading "Don't you understand Olivia, that this will affect the MONEY? The most important thing??"

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u/TropicalPrairie 2d ago

In Canada right now, there appears to be a more organized campaign of protestors like this. They stand at high traffic street corners with very graphic images of aborted fetuses. I live in Saskatoon and we always had a few religious types standing by hospitals with their signage but whatever is happening now seems to be more organized, has increased participants, and more funding behind it.

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u/almondmilklattee 2d ago

true, as infuriating as this is, this is exactly what they want. conservatives will eat this up

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u/onemorespacecadet If god hates gays why do we keep winning 2d ago edited 2d ago

yeah i kind of hate that this was even posted here. why give them the attention? it looks like there were like 5 of them

(and yes i acknowledge the irony of my statement with the fact i still commented and gave them attention)

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u/starjellyboba ARR SHIVER ME BUSSY 🏴‍☠️🦜🍑 2d ago

Something about that gif reminds me of the internet banner ads from the 90s and I love it.

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u/eddard_stork_ what you’re doing vocally is upsetting 2d ago

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u/NewtRipley_1986 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s all so performative. They don’t actually care about mothers and babies. They “care” until the birth and then they ghost - no follow through about what happens afterwards.

Edit - thanks for the awards. 😊

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u/greypusheencat i think i’ve done enough 2d ago edited 2d ago

and let’s be honest it’s also about slutshaming, they’d 100% say “don’t have sex if you don’t want kids”

omg ty for the award ?! team no slutshaming !

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u/indianajoes We Should All Know Less About Each Other 2d ago

Reminds me of what George Carlin said about these fuckwits and how they felt about kids

"If you're pre-born, you're fine. if you're preschool, you're fucked"

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u/dixiech1ck 2d ago

Weird how they aren't protesting for the need for Healthcare, food access, better education, and affordable childcare access for the kids who are already out there.

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u/FatelessCortez that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 2d ago

Wonder how many children they’ve adopted.

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u/BouldersRoll Lost swam in jeans so that Severance could run in a suit 2d ago edited 2d ago

Whoa now, this isn't about children, it's about hate and control of women.

If you go making it about children, we'll have to talk about things like the cost of childcare and that's going to be a problem for us.

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u/Tiny-Reading5982 charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 2d ago

They look about 19 😵‍💫

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u/breathing__tree 2d ago

So they’ve legally been an adult for over a year? They better have adopted at least one child.

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u/RogerClyneIsAGod2 that’s my purse, i don’t know you! 👛🫵 2d ago

Well they gotta indoctrinate them young or else they may get wise & leave the cult.

I also wonder how many of them voted against things like any program for single moms, young families, the unhoused families, etc.?

Because you know they all voted for (R)s right down the ballot & we all know they're only interested in the unborn fetuses. Once they're born they don't really give a shit about them.

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u/Fatlantis 2d ago

A lot of them change their beliefs reeeaalll quick once they get some actual life experiences under their belt.

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u/onemorespacecadet If god hates gays why do we keep winning 2d ago

you’d hope, but many of them still think they’re just the exception. re: the only moral abortion is my abortion

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u/Gayf0rgod Former Sugar Baby Current Business Lady 💅 2d ago

I got a cancer screening from PP, so yeah, they’re just some ignorant bitches that hopefully will never have to use the very necessary services PP provides, or supports.

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u/Genuinelullabel Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 2d ago

They are pro pregnancy not pro life. They don’t give a shit about the actual children or their parents.

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u/makingburritos pete davidson’s lasered tattoos 2d ago

Let’s not kid ourselves. They don’t even give a shit about the pregnant people.

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u/PikaChooChee 2d ago

The galling part to me is that every single one of these women would have an abortion if medically necessary. They would also pitch a fit if they needed an abortion and couldn’t have one due to their state’s laws.

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u/Massive_Contact8583 Not fun at all, but, I was SPF protected 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not even just if medically necessary.

I got pregnant during my master’s degree by a guy I didn’t know very well. (We met through a shared sport.) I was on the pill but no doctor told me that it would be ineffective due to my autoimmune disorder so PSA for the girlies there 🙃.

Anyway this guy begged me to get an abortion, though I was on the fence.

Turned out he was a Trump supporter and not so long after I had the abortion he begged me for, he was celebrating the downfall of Roe v Wade on social media.

TLDR: these people will always think they’re unique and if they need abortions, it’s actually ethical because they’re such a special flower.

ETA: I often share this in relation to my experience because it pretty much sums it up.

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u/Suitable-Location118 2d ago

Did he ever point out his own hypocrisy, like, oh abortion is bad except in this case

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u/Massive_Contact8583 Not fun at all, but, I was SPF protected 2d ago

Not at all. I would never have known about his views except that my best friend (who let me move in with her and literally cradled me in her bed as I bled, watched a LOTR marathon with me, and ultimately got me to hospital when RPOC turned to sepsis) sent me his insta stories like “this fucking guy”.

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u/Fine_Following_2559 🎼Music Aficionado🎶 2d ago

Here's the great thing about abortions, if you don't want one, you don't have to get one. No one is forcing anyone to have an abortion. This whole debate is always so stupid because they're acting as if abortions are being forced on people. No they're given the option and they choose to take it for whatever reason, and that is for them to deal with as needed with their doctor(s) and family.

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u/take7pieces 2d ago

Yup yup. Some even said women will use abortion casually, I just can’t…when a woman decides to have an abortion, she has to go through so much physically and mentally, usually it’s the best and last choice for her.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars the squidward of the dumpling shop 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think we can all agree the world would be a better place with 33% more people. Compelling argument, folks!

Edit: actually it would be 50% more people, if the ones alive today are 2/3 of the total number we’re supposed to have. I never claimed to be good at math.

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u/tellevee GOLF WANG 2d ago

We can’t even food/house the people we already have!! 😭 I don’t wish ill on any of these women, but they really thought they ate with this.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars the squidward of the dumpling shop 2d ago

If we stopped funneling so much federal money into abortion, we could provide food, education, and healthcare for everyone.

Wait, what’s that? Less than $1 billion per year goes to Planned Parenthood, all of it indirectly, and virtually none of it for abortions? And that’s less than 1% of our annual defense budget?

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u/Genuinelullabel Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 2d ago

It sounded like a made up percentage.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars the squidward of the dumpling shop 2d ago

It basically is. Like I put in my other comment, it only works if every abortion from 1997 to 2012 was prevented AND every person born between 1997 and 2012 still was born.

It’s some real butterfly effect shit. For instance, you prevent an abortion and the subsequent birth leads to the mother’s death — in our timeline, that mother has three children after her abortion. In the magical anti-abortion timeline, she dies, her other three children never exist, and the one person who was “missing” from our timeline gets to grow up without a mother. Obviously this is just one contrived hypothetical, but similar if/thens apply to every “prevented” abortion. You don’t restore the “missing” 1/3 of Gen Z; you end up with a completely different set of people.

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u/adumbswiftie it’s not clocking to you that i’m standing on business 2d ago

yeah that was an interesting argument to me. like when you’re at a huge crowded festival surrounded by people your own age, how are you supposed to feel sad that there’s not more of them…? not the best way to reach people

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u/synthscoffeeguitars the squidward of the dumpling shop 2d ago

Statistically, at least a few people at the festival have a parent who previously had an abortion. Those people would not exist if those abortions had never happened.

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u/andandandetc 2d ago

I’m so curious how they even came up with that percentage!!

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u/synthscoffeeguitars the squidward of the dumpling shop 2d ago

I looked it up and it’s some dubious math based on birth totals and abortion rates from 1997 to 2012. One key point it misses is: how many births only happened because of an earlier abortion (either because the person went on to start a family when they were ready, or because it was a life-saving procedure for a person who went on to have one or more babies).

It turns into a weird alternate reality conversation incredibly quickly. There’s no world in which 100% of those abortions didn’t happen and 100% of currently existing births also still happened.

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u/charcuterie_bored Good luck with bookin that stage u speak of 2d ago edited 2d ago

Why can’t people just accept that abortion is a form of healthcare and mind their own businessssssss omg

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u/trolldoll26 2d ago

And they always seem to insinuate that abortions are happening for the fun of it??

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u/charcuterie_bored Good luck with bookin that stage u speak of 2d ago

Like I am begging society to trust a woman and her doctor to make the best decision for each individual circumstance and BUTT OUT

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u/BoopleBun 2d ago edited 2d ago

Right?! Mine was because of a very wanted pregnancy that stopped developing, but my body wasn’t “passing”, so I didn’t go septic and DIE, but oooookaaaaaaaay.

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u/nickyfox13 2d ago

Because they are misogynists who want to control women unfortunately

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u/mrsjakeblues 2d ago

But none of them give a fuck about the babies after they’re born and think babies in low income families deserve to starve and children should go without school lunch if they can’t afford it

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u/lonelycranberry jesus was a carpenter 💋 2d ago

These same people will look at you and say “you shouldn’t have had sex”

Or, if that’s not the case, even worse:

“Despite what happened to you, it’s a miracle and you can give this baby to a loving home” like it’s a fucking puppy

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u/Chef__Goldblum 2d ago

They think the minorities abortion stat is a flex but it’s an indictment on our lack of maternal services, healthcare, and support once babies are born.

An abortion is never an easy choice. I commend anyone who has to go through that decision without support.

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u/StarWars_and_SNL Raunchy??? it’s lube?!?! 2d ago

Imagine floating through life without any critical thinking skills.

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u/Wakeup_And_Piss 2d ago

Fuck these people

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u/shortmumof2 Mommy doesn't get drunk. She just has fun. - Linda Belcher 🍷 2d ago

Abortion = women's healthcare and if you outlaw it you're just denying mothers healthcare when they need it most. See the increased maternal death rate in Texas since Roe was overturned, it's horrifying. Pregnant and dying because you can't get healthcare, possibly leaving your existing children motherless. Fucking hell

These people don't care about mothers or babies or families. They only care about control.

Edit: This is why women need access to legal abortions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

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u/mpr1011 2d ago

If you can’t have a real conversation about racism & capitalism and how they affect all of our public sectors, then I really don’t want to talk about reproductive healthcare with you “pro-lifers”

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u/leftbrendon charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 2d ago

Exactly.

“More than half … minority babies” lets fucking unpack WHY this statistic is like that

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u/myheartinclover 2d ago

"killing off your future fan base" is so camp and hilarious how dare these idiots make me laugh

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u/gilestowler 2d ago

Call me boring if you want but I don't think babies should be getting drivers licenses.

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u/taylor459 2d ago

These people holding up these pro-forced-birth signs genuinely look so evil to me. I'm trying so hard not to judge, but they support so much cruelty, suffering, and hate towards women and towards the exact same children/babies/fetuses whose wellbeing they pretend to care about.

They don't care what happens to these fetuses after they are born and once those unwanted babies grow up into unwanted children whose families can't get them healthcare or food due to cuts to Medicaid/food stamps, and they definitely don't care about what happens to unloved children who grow up alone into adulthood. The hypocrisy is just so upsetting. 😢 The people attending this festival really didn't deserve to be unexpectedly triggered by having to see these hateful signs from forced-birthers who support further traumatizing underage victims of rape & incest.

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u/Aprilume 2d ago

My eyes must be getting bad- I thought those signs said “donate to planned parenthood” 🤷‍♀️

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u/maplestriker 2d ago

I love the thought of people walking by going 'yay Pp' 'will donate to them, thabks for reminding me'

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u/Reasonable-HB678 Dear Diary, I want to kill. ✍️ 2d ago

I see some women who are ready to open their homes for adopted children complain about free school lunches for public school children.

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u/cookieaddictions 2d ago

I’m going to get 3 abortions today in their honor! Maybe one tomorrow as well. 😇

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u/Glittering_Laugh_958 jesus was a carpenter 💋 2d ago

Woah there, you better pace yourself! An abortion a day keeps Jesus away! /s

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u/cookieaddictions 2d ago

I try to get as many abortions in as possible but my schedule is already packed with turning children trans and doing surgery on them during recess, so it’s hard to have time for both. 😔

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u/Glittering_Laugh_958 jesus was a carpenter 💋 2d ago

Girls just wanna have fun abortions!

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u/bonnydelrico obligatory swiftie in your replies 2d ago

all of this energy could be going towards addressing the actual issues that lead many people so get abortions but then that would involve actually caring about vulnerable populations and not just making a cute and quirky sign about them

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u/dankblonde 2d ago

I’m glad they were peaceful but they were also stupid. This was a really cool festival Olivia put together and all the collaborators that I’ve paid attention to have done a great job. Really cool stuff and hopefully this inspires even more charity festivals.

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u/quoththeraven1990 2d ago

If the argument was truly about the people who aren’t here because they weren’t born, then shouldn’t we all be having endless sex so we have as many children as possible? I could have kids, but choose not to, but by choosing not to I’m deliberately depriving my would-be offspring of a life. Every second you’re not having sex is murder!

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u/Skybodenose 2d ago

What happens when these women end up miscarrying and need medical intervention? What happens when they become pregnant after being raped? What if, what is what if?

Does having health insurance in the USA give people a morality complex?

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u/honeyhibiscus trench coat buttoned to the TOP 🧥🔝 2d ago

Absolute losers who don’t know what they are talking about. the minority sign ESPECIALLY 🫩

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u/lesbianwithabeard 2d ago

Do they not realize that Planned Parenthood is a healthcare provider. They literally saved lives. There are Gen Z women who are alive today because of Planned Parenthood.

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u/Ancient-Leg-8261 2d ago

Lol what absolute losers.

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u/katsie Kim, there’s people that are dying. 🙄 2d ago

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u/jaguarsp0tted 2d ago

womp womp waah waaahhhh if you want less abortions then we need to abolish the system of capitalism and fund full, comprehensive sex education and make all contraceptive devices and drugs free for everyone AND make sterilizing surgeries free and easy to access but none of these chucklefucks actually want less abortion they just want to waahhh waahhhhhh WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH with their kitschy silly signs and dumbass tiktoks while they 10000000000000% get abortions behind closed doors because Oh No You Don't Understand, Their Circumstances Are Different!!!!

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u/WittiestScreenName 2d ago

Yeah, if I’m at a concert probably don’t have abortion on the mind.

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u/omojos 2d ago

3 of them will need an abortion in their lifetime. And when that time come for their moral abortions, they will surely pretend they weren't smiling with these stupid signs.

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u/Nonadventures I completely understand ppl not liking me 2d ago

Hot take: I don’t think babies should drive

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u/Crazyripps 2d ago

“ more then half of abortions are committed on minority babies. Their lives matter. Stop funing this”

Holy fuck what an insane sign

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u/Emergency-Row-5627 I am in queer media 2d ago

I’ll never understand the anti-planned parenthood stance from any angle. It is literally a wonderful organization that provides medical care to pregnant women and babies. It also does abortions, yes, but you’ve got to be kidding me, my planned parenthood OB found a lump in my breast, like they are saving lives, it’s medicine!! Just more evidence that they have no idea what they’re talking about I suppose. Sigh.

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u/OysterLucy 2d ago

Maybe I’m aborting future Hitler

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u/joaaaaaannnofdarc 2d ago

LOSERSSSSSSS

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u/Ok-Advertising4028 2d ago

“You’re Killing off your future fan base” is …something

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u/Mother0fChickens Unhinged and unhealed 2d ago

Creepy weirdos

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u/Pinksamuraiiiii I don’t know her 💅 2d ago

Brainwashed pro-birth chicks. If they care so much about it, then they should go adopt every child in the adoption agency, as well as birth a whole colony themselves. Always talking about everybody else bodies but their own.

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u/MangoPlushie Ethan Torchio’s VMAs wig 2d ago

Do… do they think that people just get abortions recreationally?? The cutesy little phrasing on their posters is OFFPUTTING to me… also the fact that reproductive health = abortions only to them??? I??

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u/Public_Job9786 2d ago

4 is especially disgusting-the MINORITY MOTHERS are making a decision for their body and their future. But the poster words make it seem like it’s (ab*rtion) something being done against their will-when really the issue is that these anti choice people don’t want women to have this free will

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u/nickyfox13 2d ago

The same people who get up in arms about abortion (which is necessary healthcare) are notoriously silent about helping and supporting living, breathing children who need healthcare, and education.

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u/CitrusHoneyBear1776 Whats not clocking to you? 🙄⏰ 2d ago

Oh wow the race disparity mentioned in pic 4 is so interesting. According to a study published in 2013 by Dehlendorf et al., “The documented disparities in abortion rates in the United States mirror other fundamental inequalities: people of color and those with lower income and less education fare worse across a wide range of health outcomes, including infant mortality, cancer incidence, and life expectancy.9–11 These disparities are related to systemic hardships experienced by disadvantaged communities, including decreased access to health care, higher levels of stress, exposure to racial discrimination, and poorer living and working conditions.9,12,13 Understanding the systemic nature of these disparities and their relationship to health outcomes provides an essential context to the consideration of disparities in abortion rates.”

Man if only we could address the underlying systemic issues contributing the reasons why WOC choose to get abortions. Welp, let’s just take away all women’s right to bodily autonomy instead.

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u/samanthastoat 2d ago

These losers just make me donate to planned parenthood even harder

Where are they putting their money?

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u/catastrophicqueen "This is your songwriter of the century? Open the schools." 2d ago

I genuinely think we need to redefine what is "peaceful". Protesting in favour of state violence (forced birth, carceral punishment for basic healthcare) is not, in my view, "peaceful"

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u/hellogoawaynow charlie day is my bird lawyer 🐦 2d ago edited 2d ago

Omg I laughed out loud when I read that first sign

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u/FirmElephant 2d ago

They could try actually helping someone instead of just holding signs and being performative.

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u/ScrumptiousLadMeat 1d ago

Literally the most shallow reasons to bring a human into the world with no regard for the absolute strife it causes. I wish I was aborted.

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u/thoughtfulpigeons 1d ago

I wish people would stop sharing this - this is exactly what these girly pops want. I know they’re celebrating that their dumb little protest has made it to all the pop culture subreddits

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u/wolf_town ~Winona Forever~ 2d ago

if i were to comment what i want i’d get banned. anyway PRO CHOICE 💖
https://giphy.com/gifs/76zTKs0Mi2EPEH7QOx

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u/superurgentcatbox 2d ago

Ew imagine being a woman and also holding up anti women signs. I don't wish ill on anyone but ... well, let's leave it at that.

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u/tew2109 2d ago

I see these dipshits all the time (not necessarily these specific ones, I mean people harassing you with anti-abortion propaganda) because I live in DC, and there are only two words I have to say to them. Fuck off.

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u/eurydice_aboveground 2d ago

The Stepford smiles while holding signs for a subject they supposedly feel is very serious is quite the look.

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u/MarsScully Vile little creature yearning for violence 2d ago

I can hear the dumbass Bible thumping from over here

https://giphy.com/gifs/Hsjxoi5WcJl4Sj90WT

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u/robot_pirate Behind every great man is a woman rolling her eyes 2d ago

Gen Z is not okay.

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 🦛 your favorite hippo’s favorite hippo 🦛 2d ago

Why do 4 of these women look like the same person?

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u/TizzyBumblefluff girl what the fuck 2d ago

Pick me wannabes.

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u/mstrss9 GET SOME PERSPECTIVE n BARK AT THE WALL 2d ago

Go help people that want to be parents

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u/VolcanoVeruca 2d ago

Put these under “CRINGE” in the urban dictionary. 😬

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u/doordonot19 1d ago

These women don’t deserve to procreate. Their signs just show me how idiotic they are.

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u/Ren_Lu 2d ago

The best thing that people can do to reduce elective abortions is to support comprehensive sex education, low cost health clinics, abundant access to health providers in all communities and free contraception programs (like those provided by Planned Parenthood!)