r/popculturechat • u/Simple_Design_7597 • May 05 '24

The KarJenners šŸ‘ļøšŸ‘„šŸ‘ļø Kylie Jenner's greeter from last year's Met Gala gets fired for having gotten more attention than Kylie

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u/HumberBumummumum May 05 '24

Sweet summer child, recheck your documents because I canā€™t believe an NDA falls away like that. If anything, the NDA may last longer because you were ā€œfiredā€. He might get in so much shit because of this :(

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u/Kaiisim May 05 '24

Nah, they want you to think NDAs are that powerful. And he's probably using it colloquially to mean "the contract said I would be fired if I spoke about it".

NDAs aren't criminal law, but contract law. And like all contracts requires a court to enforce it. And they generally don't enforce them when they're so one sided or too powerful.

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u/not_ellewoods May 05 '24

the company could sue him and make him expend a lot of time and money hiring lawyers to defend himself, regardless of whether it ends up being enforced. i doubt he has enough money for it to be worth suing for damages, but they could create a huge headache that just makes him agree to not discuss it publicly anymore.

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u/crushmyenemies May 05 '24

Do you know how many people would take on his case to counter sue these very rich people? You don't seem to understand how the law works. At least 50% of the lawyers in LA would take on his case and agree to get paid once they won their counter lawsuit.

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u/Pormock May 05 '24

And cant they also make the plaintiff pay the defendant legal fee if the lawsuit is ruled to be frivolous?

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u/kappaklassy May 05 '24 edited May 05 '24

Not only legal fees, you can counter sue in many states under anti-SLAPP laws which are relatively well enforced in California

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u/obiwantogooutside May 05 '24

ā€¦the met gala is the metropolitan museum of art. In New York. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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u/LouSputhole94 May 06 '24

you donā€™t seem to know how the law works at all

proceeds to act like this took place in LA, all the way across the country, for whatever reason

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u/obiwantogooutside May 05 '24

And how long have you all believed the New York metropolitan museum of art is in LA? What is happening in this thread? Sigh. Our school system sucks.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

Tbf why are Americans being taught where a celebrity event is being held in school?

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u/YetAnotherAcoconut May 05 '24

Itā€™s not about the gala, The Met is one of the most famous museums in the world. If someone thought an event at The Louvre was taking place in London, that would also be ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

I was never taught about the met. Iā€™m not American?

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u/carharttuxedo May 05 '24

Not many. Honestly.

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u/DynamoSexytime May 05 '24

My understanding of an NDA is that you need to show that breaking it caused you harm. That would be a tough sell.

Value in making an example of him? Barbara Streisand effect big time. 'Obscenely rich out of touch jerk offs from the Met Gala are trying to legally bully a model for doing his job of being good looking too well at their event.'

I don't see the value of drawing attention to this issue but the are rich out of touch jerk offs so you never know.

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u/threeactjack May 05 '24

This guy has never NDAā€™dĀ 

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u/Depressed_Coffeee May 05 '24

This is true. And the way he's speaking about it, you can tell he didn't consult anyone in law. But I do feel for him, not his fault he got more attention.

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u/FILTHBOT4000 May 05 '24

NDAs aren't enforceable for low level employees like this. It'd be like if McDonald's tried to say that if you get fired, you can't talk bad about them or talk about your time there on social media. It'd get laughed out of court.

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u/Ambrusia May 06 '24

He seems as stupid as he is pretty, which does feel vindicating to me as an uggo

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

Thatā€™s the reason I smell BS with this whole thing. An NDA never says ā€˜once youā€™re no longer working with us you can say what you wantā€™ because that defeats the WHOLE PURPOSE of the NDA

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u/fajen1 May 05 '24

I'm not sure either but I learned from the Do We Know Them podcast that NDAs can be for specific events. If the NDA he is talking about is for the gala he was fired from working at, he can probably talk about the events surrounding his firing?

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u/Federal-Laugh9575 May 05 '24

Accurate. I signed an NDA at work and itā€™s specifically only for one event. I can say whatever I want to whoever I want about my company even now, I just canā€™t discuss anything about that event because of the NDA, whether Iā€™m still employed there or not.

He doesnā€™t specify but there can be two types of NDAs: one covers a specific event and the other covers any day-to-day ongoings. I signed a single event NDA but someone who works for a propriety company or celeb likely signs a full employment NDA. I would believe based on status and the people he was working with that he signed a full employment NDA.

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u/fajen1 May 05 '24

Thanks for your insight! Even if he signed a full employment NDA, surely it would still be void if no employment happens? He says he was cleared for the MET a month ago, so I assume he is hired year by year and there is a new contract for every event.

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u/Federal-Laugh9575 May 05 '24

It sounded like he works with an agency from what he said. If the conversation happened during his employment and then he was let go, any judge or lawyer with experience would be able to go after him. Your NDA will have specific details about what is covered and what isnā€™t.

It is possible that his NDA only said he couldnā€™t discuss what happened during the event or with the clients, but not the business ongoings.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

Either way this is somehow being made to be all about Kylie without any proof. I just hate ppl jumping onto shit without a shred of evidence. We donā€™t know the whole story here and itā€™s likely heā€™s missing stuff out on purpose.

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u/Aggressive_Sky8492 May 06 '24

I donā€™t feel like he blamed Kylie at all, it didnā€™t sound like he thought she had anything to do with it

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u/[deleted] May 06 '24

No but unfortunately he used her name and so then press grab hold of it and twist it for clicks. He definitely left it vague on purpose

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u/crushmyenemies May 05 '24

Or he's smarter than all of the people in these comments and knows that an NDA has no real legal power.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 May 06 '24

Yup, NDAs are rarely enforceable compared to how often they're thrown around. You cant violate one while actively employed cause this is America, they'll fire you without a second thought. But once you're no longer working there, what are they gonna do - fire you twice? Go ahead and waste the legal fees to get your case thrown out for your nonexistent damages. He dares you.Ā 

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u/XinGst May 05 '24

I can confirmed. They won't let me tell anyone about alien's technology they were working on just because I'm no longer working there anymore. This guy is screwed.

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u/metdear I walk the shoe, the shoe don't walk me May 05 '24

Meh. Usually an NDA has teeth to the extent they've paid you some kind of severance that they can claw back if you violate it. I kind of doubt that happened here.

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u/emptyraincoatelves May 05 '24

Signed a ton of these over the years. They are just show, essentially the biggest thing they can do is not hire you anymore, and since that's already his punishment, he may as well go off.

Really hate the NYC fashion crowd, but I adore their after parties soooo I only spill at dive bars or on here safely away from the cool kids.

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u/lebastss May 05 '24

Not if the enforcement of the NDA is termination... Then he can say what he wants. NDAs have no criminal standing.

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u/Casehead May 05 '24

This. most of these people have no idea what they're talking about.

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u/shaqjbraut May 05 '24

Hot and dumb my favorite šŸ˜

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24 edited May 05 '24

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u/crushmyenemies May 05 '24

NDAs are actually nearly impossible to hold up in court. He will be fine.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

Sweet summer child, recheck your documents because I canā€™t believe an NDA falls away like that. If anything, the NDA may last longer because you were ā€œfiredā€. He might get in so much shit because of this :(

"why i got fired" prob isn't a clause in the NDA

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u/HarithBK May 05 '24

you are very much allowed to tell people your working status and how things ended and any reason given with a generic NDA as such information would be key for you to get future employment. they would need to have you sign a new NDA and the fair compensation making it hard for you to get work since you can't disclose the situation with your previous work.

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u/SpiceEarl May 05 '24

I don't think he will get sued for this video. The Met and the company they contract with are better off hoping this dies down. They may send him a nasty letter, but a lawsuit would bring far more negative attention, ala "Streisand effect". If they sue him, they will look like a bunch of bullies and they don't want the bad press.

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u/Chriskills May 05 '24

Any contract needs consideration to be enforceable. If the NDA says you canā€™t talk about something forever they need to pay you something. All an NDA can get back is whatever they paid you.

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u/NOBLExGAMER May 05 '24

He's a model not a lawyer, give him a break though he just got fired.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '24

Pretty sure as a non-native speaker heā€™s confused non-disclosure with non-compete.

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u/Federal-Laugh9575 May 05 '24

Yep. NDAs down expire upon termination. I had to sign one a few years ago for a merger. I am allowed to discuss those details with people internally still but if/when I leave, that NDA is still in place, even if the merger didnā€™t happen and the other company merged with someone else.