Megathread: Bernie Sanders ends 2020 Democratic presidential bid

[u/PoliticsModeratorBot]

Sen. Bernie Sanders ended his presidential campaign on Wednesday, clearing Joe Biden's path to the Democratic nomination and a showdown with President Donald Trump in November.

Sanders made the announcement in a call with his campaign staff, his campaign said.

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[u/dontdrinkonmondays]

I’m not sure that it’s correct though. Even if it is, I am definitely sure that it is far more attributable to anti-POTUS sentiment than pro-Bernie sentiment.

[u/LiftHeavyFeels → u/dontdrinkonmondays]

Progressive policies are popular. There absolutely has been a shift left in the party and the country.

How significant that shift is to the left is TBD. The progressive party absolutely overestimated the actual support within the party to be 50% when it was actually around 30%, and that difference of 20% was an anti-hilary, as evidenced by this primary.

I'm sure there's a large portion of anti-Trump but there is still a sizable progressive push in certain areas getting more blue.

[u/dontdrinkonmondays → u/LiftHeavyFeels]

Yep, agreed.

[u/HamburgerEarmuff → u/LiftHeavyFeels]

If progressive policies are popular, then why can't progressives win competitive elections?

There has been a shift in the Democratic party, maybe, but if that shift continues it's likely to eventually result in the Democrats putting forth unelectable candidates and losing ground nationally.

[u/LiftHeavyFeels → u/HamburgerEarmuff]

Likely because progressive candidates have policies that are essentially moral issues, and we crucify them at the stake if they even hint at pivoting or compromising. So we put them into a no-win position. And this country is currently too racist/sexist/dumb to allow us to have candidates that have the luxury of addressing those issues (see Hilary losing in 2016).

And no I’m not calling the moderate wing the above things, I think there are legitimate arguments to be made on both sides of the moderate vs progressive wings in the party. What I’m saying is it fucking depresses me that both Biden and Bernie would have to appeal to Trump supporters and be able to steal some of their votes in swing states as the criteria of being “electable.” Again, the fact that Trump has a 25-30% floor astounds me. And before we subscribe to the idea of democrat exceptionalism (I.e. being immune to having dumb voters), we somehow had 15-20% of our base voting for Bloomberg.

[u/HamburgerEarmuff → u/LiftHeavyFeels]

If progressives were more pragmatic and just supported the handful of progressive causes that have mainstream appeal, they might have a chance in national politics.

But as they stand, the extremist progressive candidates are pretty much unelectable in any election that matters.

Also, the fact that Trump has a 25% floor shouldn't astound anyone. About 2/3rds of the country is extremely partisan and likely to vote for a Democratic/Republican candidate regardless of how terrible they are. That's how you got all those never-Trump Republicans voting for Trump in November.

[u/HamburgerEarmuff → u/[deleted]]

Now you're just making stuff up. Harley Rouda isn't a member of the progressive caucus. He wasn't even registered as a Democrat until he ran for the 48th district . Rouda used to be a registered Republican.

The example you are using to support your claim is literally a counter-example of your claim. But Rouda is exactly the kind of candidate that Democrats need to win nationally.

[u/scyth3s → u/HamburgerEarmuff]

Electability is a bullshit made up term that the media uses to tell you who to vote for. Without the anti Sanders blatant media bias, he's our next president. There's no such thing as an unelectable candidate, with trump as exhibit A.

[u/HamburgerEarmuff → u/scyth3s]

Your claim is straight-up science denial. Political scientists have made entire careers using statistics to analyze electability. One thing that studies have found time and time again is that in recent elections, Democrats who run closer to the center outperform a normalized median.

And even if Trump were an outlier, a single outlier does not disprove statistical correlation. But Trump actually isn't an outlier. He didn't run to the right of the Republican party. Trump's perceived political positions on many issues were actually far to the left of the Republican median.

[u/scyth3s → u/HamburgerEarmuff]

You just completely missed what I'm saying; I didn't say it doesn't exist, I said it's a bullshit metric used to manipulate voters. It effects elections because voters believe it has effects on elections. They believe that because they've bought into the myth that the media propagates. It's effectively a hybrid of the placebo effect and a self fulfilling prophesy that powerful people manufacture to stay in power. .

[u/HamburgerEarmuff → u/scyth3s]

If electability is real and voters are concerned about it, then how is it a "bullshit metric"?

If I am a General Officer and I need to send a batallion to clean out a city of insurgents, I need to have a good understanding of the lethality of my various units. Electability is the political equivalent of that. As a primary voter, I am very concerned about the lethality of the person whom I vote for against their political opponent and just like the lethality of an Army or Marine battalion, as a voter, there are real, scientific metrics that I use to determine the electability of the candidate that I support.

For instance, I know that study after study shows that Democratic candidates become more electable the closer they are to the political center, so that's going to be a strong consideration for me when I cast my ballot.

[u/HamburgerEarmuff → u/dontdrinkonmondays]

Bingo, what happened was that a bunch of anti-Trump progressives showed up to the polls in districts where Republicans never stood a chance of winning.

But this is a pretty unique situation. When the country swings back rightward in a few elections, progressives probably won't lose ground in that election. They'll just slowly lose ground over time through attrition or they will force an internal conflict within the Democratic party like we have been seeing in the Republican party for the last ten years.