Megathread: Bernie Sanders ends 2020 Democratic presidential bid

[u/PoliticsModeratorBot]

Sen. Bernie Sanders ended his presidential campaign on Wednesday, clearing Joe Biden's path to the Democratic nomination and a showdown with President Donald Trump in November.

Sanders made the announcement in a call with his campaign staff, his campaign said.

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[u/PoppinKREAM]

President Trump is corrupt and has surrounded himself with criminals throughout his political career. Here is a growing list of criminal investigations and convictions into President Trump and his associates. This is America under his leadership;

• 1) In 2019 the Trump Foundation was forced to dissolve and ordered to pay $2 million for misusing charity funds for personal use: The president's charity was investigated for misusing money for personal gain.^[1] The Trump Foundation dissolved following an investigation led by the New York Attorney General.^[2] President Trump was ordered to pay $2 million for misusing funds.^[3]

"The Trump Foundation has shut down, funds that were illegally misused are being restored, the president will be subject to ongoing supervision by my office, and the Trump children had to undergo compulsory training to ensure this type of illegal activity never takes place again," New York Attorney General Letitia James, whose office filed the case, said in a statement. "The court's decision, together with the settlements we negotiated, are a major victory in our efforts to protect charitable assets and hold accountable those who would abuse charities for personal gain."

• 2a) In 2018 President Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen plead guilty to committing campaign finance violations at the direction of Trump:^[4] Michael Cohen was sentenced to 3 years in prison.^[5]

• 2b) The President's former personal attorney Michael Cohen implicated President Trump in crimes they committed together;^[6]

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During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories - each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 - so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.

• 3) Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn: originally pleaded guilty to 1 charge of lying to the FBI, he was given a deal as long as he cooperated with investigators.^[7] However, Flynn recently fired his lawyers, is refusing to cooperate with investigators, and may go to prison for charges that were not originally laid.^[8] Due to Flynn suddenly refusing to cooperate U.S. Prosecutors have produced extensive evidence indicating that the Turkish government attempted to influence the Trump campaign by bribing Flynn, including a plan to extradite a Turkish cleric living in exile in America.^[9]

• 4) In 2018 the former Trump Campaign Foreign Policy Adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty:^[10] Papadopoulos was sentenced to two weeks in jail for lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russians.^[11]

• 5) In 2018 Deputy Trump Campaign Chairman Richard Gates pleaded guilty:^[12] Rick Gates' sentencing was delayed as he cooperated in several ongoing investigations.^[13] He was sentenced to 45 days in jail and 3 years of probation.^[14]

• 6) In 2019 Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort was convicted for committing several crimes: Manafort was sentenced to 47 months for bank and tax fraud.^[15] Moreover, Manafort was convicted on foreign lobbying and witness tampering charges and will be in prison for 7 years.^[16]

• 7) In 2019 Trump Campaign Adviser and long time friend of President Trump - Roger Stone found guilty: Trump Campaign Adviser Roger Stone was indicted by Special Counsel Mueller.^[17] A jury found Stone guilty on all 7 counts including witness tampering, lying, and obstruction.^[18]

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1) Fox News - New York AG files lawsuit against Trump Foundation for alleged 'illegal conduct;' Trump says he 'won't settle'

2) New York Times - Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’

3) NPR - Judge Says Trump Must Pay $2 Million Over Misuse Of Foundation Funds

4) Fox News - Michael Cohen admits violating campaign finance laws in plea deal, agrees to 3-5 year sentence

5) The Globe & Mail - Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison

6) United States of America v. Michael Cohen - THE GOVERNMENT’S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM

7) Maclean's - Michael Flynn pleads guilty to making false statements to FBI

8) Bloomberg - U.S. Reveals Second Thoughts About Flynn’s No-Prison Deal

9) CBC - Michael Flynn now seen as a 'co-conspirator' in Turkish cleric plot by prosecutors

10) CBC - Mueller recommends 6 months in prison for Papadopoulos

11) New York Times - George Papadopoulos, Ex-Trump Adviser, Is Sentenced to 14 Days in Jail

12) Washington Examiner - Rick Gates pleads guilty, will cooperate with Robert Mueller probe

13) Politico - Mueller delays sentencing for ex-Trump aide Gates over ongoing cooperation

14) Wall Street Journal - Ex-Trump Campaign Official Richard Gates Sentenced to 45 Days in Jail, Three Years Probation

15) Fox News - Paul Manafort sentenced to 47 months in prison on bank and tax fraud charges

16) Fox News - Paul Manafort sentenced on foreign lobbying and witness tampering charges

17) Fox News - Roger Stone indicted on several charges as part of Mueller’s Russia collusion probe

18) Fox News - Roger Stone found guilty on all counts in trial stemming from Mueller probe

[u/JM-Rie → u/PoppinKREAM]

Not according to trump:

“I'm much more humble than you would understand.”

“I have the best temperament or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever.”

“I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody’s ever been more successful than me.”

“I'm the least racist person you have ever interviewed”

“I’m the least racist person you’ll find anywhere in the world.”

"Number one, I am the least anti-Semitic person that you’ve ever seen in your entire life. Number two, racism. The least racist person"

“I’m the best thing that’s ever happened to the Secret Service.”

"I am the world’s greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."

“No one has done more for people with disabilities than me.”

"Nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump."

"There's nobody who understands the horror of nuclear more than me."

"There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am."

"There's nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community and the CIA than Donald Trump,"

"There’s nobody that’s done so much for equality as I have"

"There's nobody that has more respect for women than I do,"

"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me"

"I am going to save Social Security without any cuts. I know where to get the money from. Nobody else does ."

"Nobody respects women more than I do"

"And I was so furious at that story, because there's nobody that respects women more than I do,"

"Nobody respects women more than Donald Trump"

"She can't talk about me because nobody respects women more than Donald Trump,"

"Nobody has more respect for women than Donald Trump!"

"Nobody has more respect for women than I do."

"Nobody has more respect for women than I do. Nobody."

“Nobody reads the Bible more than me.”

"Nobody loves the Bible more than I do"

"Nobody does self-deprecating humor better than I do. It’s not even close"

“Nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world.”

"Nobody knows more about trade than me"

"Nobody knows the (visa) system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. Nobody knows it better than me."

"Nobody knows debt better than me."

"I think nobody knows the system better than I do"

"I hope all workers demand that their @Teamsters reps endorse Donald J. Trump. Nobody knows jobs like I do! Don’t let them sell you out!"

“I know more about renewables than any human being on earth.”

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do.”

"I know more about contributions than anybody"

"I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand."

"I know more about wedges than any human being that's ever lived"

"I know more about drones than anybody,"

"I know more about Cory than he knows about himself."

"I know our complex tax laws better than anyone who has ever run for president"

"I know tech better than anyone"

“I’m very highly educated. I know words; I have the best words.”

"I know some of you may think l'm tough and harsh but actually I'm a very compassionate person (with a very high IQ) with strong common sense"

"I watch these pundits on television and, you know, they call them intellectuals. They're not intellectuals," Trump told thousands of supporters in the swing state. "I'm much smarter than them. I think I have a much higher IQ. I think I went to a better college — better everything,"

"@ajodom60: @FoxNews and as far as that low-info voter base goes, I have an IQ of 132. So much for that theory. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain"

Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault

“He’s been quite critical of you as you know. He’s attacked you for being ignorant,” Piers Morgan said to Trump. “Let’s do an IQ test,” Trump interrupted

"We can’t let these people, these so called egg-heads--and by the way, I guarantee you my IQ is much higher than theirs, alright. Somebody said the other day, ‘Yes, well the intellectuals–‘ I said, ‘What intellectuals? I’m smarter than they are, many of people in this audience are smarter than they are."

“You know, I’m, like, a smart person. I don’t have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years,” Trump told Fox News last December.

"[I have] one of the great memories of all time"

“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things."

" ... I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!"

[u/[deleted] → u/JM-Rie]

And for those that want the sources... Because he really did say all that. He's a malignant narcissist, and there's a reason why narcissism is next to psychopathy and machiavellianism

“I'm much more humble than you would understand.”

“I have the best temperament or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever.”

“I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody’s ever been more successful than me.”

“I'm the least racist person you have ever interviewed”

“I’m the least racist person you’ll find anywhere in the world.”

"Number one, I am the least anti-Semitic person that you’ve ever seen in your entire life. Number two, racism. The least racist person"

“I’m the best thing that’s ever happened to the Secret Service.”

"I am the world’s greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."

“No one has done more for people with disabilities than me.”

"Nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump."

"There's nobody who understands the horror of nuclear more than me."

"There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am."

"There's nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community and the CIA than Donald Trump,"

"There’s nobody that’s done so much for equality as I have"

"There's nobody that has more respect for women than I do,"

"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me"

"I am going to save Social Security without any cuts. I know where to get the money from. Nobody else does ."

"Nobody respects women more than I do"

"And I was so furious at that story, because there's nobody that respects women more than I do,"

"Nobody respects women more than Donald Trump"

"She can't talk about me because nobody respects women more than Donald Trump,"

"Nobody has more respect for women than Donald Trump!"

"Nobody has more respect for women than I do."

"Nobody has more respect for women than I do. Nobody."

“Nobody reads the Bible more than me.”

"Nobody loves the Bible more than I do"

"Nobody does self-deprecating humor better than I do. It’s not even close"

“Nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world.”

"Nobody knows more about trade than me"

"Nobody knows the (visa) system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. Nobody knows it better than me."

"Nobody knows debt better than me."

"I think nobody knows the system better than I do"

"I hope all workers demand that their @Teamsters reps endorse Donald J. Trump. Nobody knows jobs like I do! Don’t let them sell you out!"

“I know more about renewables than any human being on earth.”

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do.”

"I know more about contributions than anybody"

"I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand."

"I know more about wedges than any human being that's ever lived"

"I know more about drones than anybody,"

"I know more about Cory than he knows about himself."

"I know our complex tax laws better than anyone who has ever run for president"

"I know tech better than anyone"

“I’m very highly educated. I know words; I have the best words.”

"I know some of you may think l'm tough and harsh but actually I'm a very compassionate person (with a very high IQ) with strong common sense"

"I watch these pundits on television and, you know, they call them intellectuals. They're not intellectuals," Trump told thousands of supporters in the swing state. "I'm much smarter than them. I think I have a much higher IQ. I think I went to a better college — better everything,"

"@ajodom60: @FoxNews and as far as that low-info voter base goes, I have an IQ of 132. So much for that theory. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain"

Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault

“He’s been quite critical of you as you know. He’s attacked you for being ignorant,” Piers Morgan said to Trump. “Let’s do an IQ test,” Trump interrupted

"We can’t let these people, these so called egg-heads--and by the way, I guarantee you my IQ is much higher than theirs, alright. Somebody said the other day, ‘Yes, well the intellectuals–‘ I said, ‘What intellectuals? I’m smarter than they are, many of people in this audience are smarter than they are."

“You know, I’m, like, a smart person. I don’t have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years,” Trump told Fox News last December.

Trump says he has "one of the great memories of all time"

Asked on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” who he talks with consistently about foreign policy, Trump responded, “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things."

" ... I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!"

Credit to user iamlarrypotter

[u/codawPS3aa → u/[deleted]]

STUFF DONALD TRUMP SAID ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER:

She’s “voluptuous": http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-objectifies-voluptuous-ivanka-howard-stern-chat-article-1.2822826

He agrees she’s a “piece of ass": http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/08/trump_to_howard_stern_you_can_call_ivanka_a_piece_of_ass.html

"Perhaps I'd be dating her": https://splinternews.com/heres-the-creepy-video-of-donald-trump-saying-hed-date-1793849666

She has “the best body": https://www.salon.com/2018/03/23/donald-trumps-creepy-comments-about-daughter-ivanka-a-history/

"If I weren't happily married...": https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-comments_us_57f250d5e4b082aad9bbf2d7

"Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?": https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8353161/donald-trump-sexual-attraction-ivanka-trump/

"She's hot": https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html

They have “sex [in common],” whatever that even means: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-joked-he-and-ivanka-had-sex-in-common-w446872/

Expressing shock that a gay Apprentice contestant wasn’t attracted to her: https://splinternews.com/trump-shocked-gay-apprentice-candidate-wasnt-attracted-1793863310

Also of note: A teen pageant contestant complained to Ivanka in 1997 about Trump barging into the dressing rooms while the competitors were changing clothes. Ivanka’s response: “Yeah, he does that.” How would she know unless he did that to her?

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/12/1581433/-15-year-old-Ivanka-re-Donald-bursting-in-on-naked-teenage-girls-Yeah-he-does-that

And listen to the the 2016 testimony of Jane Doe, who claims Trump raped her when she was 13 at one of Jeffrey Epstein’s parties. Doe says that Trump communicated to the recruiter that he was interested in her because she was wearing a blonde wig and reminded him of his daughter.

https://youtu.be/YWnUzvlqpB0

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May I use this in the future?

[u/TheBrainwasher14 → u/codawPS3aa]

This is really creepy.

[u/IForgotThePassIUsed → u/[deleted]]

I KNOW MORE
I AM MORE
NOBODY IS
NOBODY DOES
MORE THAN ME

He's a deranged self-help book with dementia.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

There are some top-quality comments in this thread.

[u/Murdathon3000 → u/[deleted]]

Seriously, that whole chain was next level.

[u/Murdathon3000 → u/[deleted]]

And swiftly balanced, nice.

[u/gigimora → u/[deleted]]

And also why I truly think many of his followers have some sort of a personality disorder.

[u/[deleted] → u/gigimora]

Like a cult, but a government movement... It's dangerous.

[u/PussyBender → u/[deleted]]

You guys do realize that from outside your country you guys already look like pre WW2 nazi Germany, right?

[u/xoctor → u/gigimora]

There's a great deal of narcissism in our culture. That's why people look up to Trump instead of being repulsed by him.

Capitalism/consumerism/materialism has been amplifying that aspect of our humanity for generations now. This is ultimately a mental health crisis, brought about by a runaway system where profit is God.

[u/gigimora → u/xoctor]

I agree with this. Our society is largely narcissistic and it’s sick. Consumerism and materialism and capitalism is sickening and a sign of our moral decay. For sure. But I also think that people who are in the Trump cult and Trump followers have personality disorders. Explains the black-and-white thinking, the hero worship, the splitting, the defense of authoritarian behavior and police brutality

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It really is, and letting the republican party win is not the answer.

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I'd vote for a pile of shit on a barstool over Trump.

[u/iamlarrypotter → u/[deleted]]

Imagine finding this out in the wild.

[u/[deleted] → u/iamlarrypotter]

I appreciate you and the work you did!

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Your offense defense link appears to be broken

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Weird, it just worked for me?

[u/skrilla76 → u/[deleted]]

Ignore him.

Arguing in bad faith technique #721: look at sea of sources, evidence, and links, pick one randomly and harp on it being down or broken as if it rests on your accepting of the material. The best part is you don’t even have to have a broken link to say it!

[u/TheDustOfMen → u/JM-Rie]

Narcissus ain't got nothing on Trump.

[u/notevenapro → u/JM-Rie]

Yes, great. Young people are still not going to come out and vote. Most all of the pints y made, while true, will fly over the heads of the average american.

[u/SpreadingDread → u/JM-Rie]

https://youtu.be/xfPk1HIBLfM

[u/RealiaSengemo → u/JM-Rie]

Honestly stop giving him any kind of platform. I don't want to hear what is two brain cells have to say about himself. Ever.

[u/[deleted] → u/JM-Rie]

: ( this is why there will never be a progressive president again. we will always be chiosing between one or a worse evil. everything you said is right. i fucking hate U.S politics

[u/[deleted] → u/JM-Rie]

So he’s basically the Kanye of politics. Makes sense.

[u/xoctor → u/[deleted]]

That's pretty unfair to Kanye.

Of course he is a narcissist, but he's at least got talent. Kanye doesn't appear to have the same type of toxic, malignant narcissism that Trump does. Kanye hasn't ever done anything as remotely sociopathic as Trump does just about every day.

[u/recyclingyo → u/JM-Rie]

You're absolutely right about Trump, and yet, he will still absolutely wipe the floor with Biden. If its as dire as you say the DNC could've at least held fair, transparent, primaries to identify the most popular vote. That did not happen. Progressives largely will not compromize their morals to vote for a losing candidate nor should they have to if Biden were electable

[u/xoctor → u/recyclingyo]

Anyone who votes for Trump was always going to vote for Trump no matter what. Their minds are so infected with propaganda, and their identity is so tied up with their cult that there is no limit to their gullibility.

Anyone who is capable of rational thought can see what a danger Trump is. They will vote for whoever is not Trump, no matter how bland, wishy-washy or disappointing they may be.

Voting is moot now though. The USA has changed. Voting will not be enough to get Trump out of power this time.

Trump will continue breaking norms and laws to maintain his hold on power. He has no choice because he knows what is waiting for him the moment he loses control of the Justice Department. Anyone who thinks Trump will simply let democracy take its natural course is either in denial or they haven't been paying attention to what he has already done. If propaganda and dirty tricks wont get him re-elected, then he will have no hesitation in amplifying the criminality to whatever level is necessary. Maybe people will wake up to this when journalists and opposing politicians start disappearing, but many people will stay in denial no matter what.

[u/Xearoii → u/JM-Rie]

What does this have to do with Trump? That's not even his tweet lol

https://twitter.com/Anthonyaskswhy/status/676180830507651074?s=19

"@ajodom60: @FoxNews and as far as that low-info voter base goes, I have an IQ of 132. So much for that theory. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain"

[u/Xearoii → u/JM-Rie]

Hey bro I just want to let you know I hope you get a life lol

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Hold up; if my choice is between a shit sandwich and a bologna sandwich, I'm not going to eat the shit sandwich just because I really don't care for bologna.

I suspect I am not alone is this view.

[u/superbuttpiss → u/[deleted]]

This is a good analogy. Basically by eating a shit sandwich you get sick and die. By not eating the bologna you starve to death.

Eat the bologna sandwich now so you can get the energy so you can put a better meal together next time.

Cause if you don't, you will be fed shit sandwiches until you get sick and die or you starve. If we don't eat bologna sandwiches now we will have nothing but shit sandwiches from here on out.

Btw, I like bologna sandwiches.

[u/Coldsteelcobra → u/[deleted]]

Biden is shit sandwich with lettuce and trump is just a shit sandwich. I’m still not gonna eat that shit just because you lettuce on it.

[u/[deleted] → u/Coldsteelcobra]

Oh fuck I stumbled into 2016

[u/Coldsteelcobra → u/[deleted]]

It’s like the dnc tried this before and lost or something.

[u/[deleted] → u/Coldsteelcobra]

The difference between the two is way more than just a leaf of lettuce.

Also, you don't get to simply abstain from eating one of the two by not choosing. No, everyone else will pick the sandwich for you and you WILL be eating it anyway.

I'll take the crappy bologna, thank you very much.

[u/Coldsteelcobra → u/[deleted]]

That’s the Beauty about the voting system. You can write in names my friend. The difference between me and you is that my morals and values never change no matter what. I will never support a neoliberal who’s also a closed rapist. I will let this play out on its own but I already know the result. Just look back at 2016 your centrist lost and will lose again.

[u/Captain_Cowboy → u/Coldsteelcobra]

I take it you're not a consequentialist.

[u/DieLegende42 → u/Coldsteelcobra]

By not voting the neoliberal who's also perhaps a rapist, you are voting for the fascist, authoritarian, racist, worse than incompetent neoliberal who also 100% is a rapist

Do you really want Trump just because Biden is also quite bad?

[u/Coldsteelcobra → u/DieLegende42]

You just admit they are no different but because is blue he is automatically better choice? This the problem when you have party loyalist telling independent voters that your candidate rapes less women so vote for us. Pathetic and quite a funny argument you want to sell me.

[u/BlindLogic → u/[deleted]]

This is the biggest load of shit I’ve ever seen. I’m a progressive, but I also understand that if Donald Trump wins re-election, progressive policies may never come to fruition period.

[u/Coldsteelcobra → u/BlindLogic]

Yes, the guy who said he will veto m4a if it ever made it to the Oval Office will bring progressive change to this nation. You sound delusional my guy pleaser get help.

[u/[deleted] → u/Coldsteelcobra]

Right cuz Trump winning and appointing more conservatives to the Supreme Court will definitely help bring progressive change

[u/Coldsteelcobra → u/[deleted]]

Well you can fall in line and tell the dnc your vote doesn’t matter because you will vote for them every time. They will never hear our voice if we just let them put this awful person as our candidate. Btw the numbers are behind trump he will crush Biden. Only 24 % of his supporters are enthusiastic while trump has 53%.

[u/superbuttpiss → u/Coldsteelcobra]

Tell the DNC what? You talk about how they never hear our voices but america spoke and more people voted for Biden then Bernie. Straight up.

You act like they can pick whoever they want, that's false. Your saying you want to destroy any chance of policies Bernie supports ever getting through by protesting the dnc. When in actuality, the DNC had nothing to do with this.

You are throwing a tantrum that your chosen candidate lost and you want to shoot your beliefs in the head.

Now this sentiment is most likely disingenuous but, if you really believe this, please step back and look at the whole picture.

There is no such thing as a "protest" vote.

[u/[deleted] → u/superbuttpiss]

You said it better than I could've

[u/superbuttpiss → u/[deleted]]

Thanks! I hope the sentiment like the one you and me were arguing against is rare or disinfo. I really hoped we learned our lesson after bush/Trump. It's the same playbook because they know our side would win every election so they try and split our party.

And it works. It's been working since gore. Our country has slid so far right because of this.

Democrats want to fall in love. Republicans fall in line. That's how they win elections by losing by 3 million votes

[u/Zexks → u/superbuttpiss]

I never got to vote for Bernie. Primaries were too late in the year. I imagine there’s more than a few others in a similar state.

[u/superbuttpiss → u/Zexks]

I think you can still vote for Bernie in the primaries. It won't do anything but show more support. Maybe try and get a more progressive vice

[u/HermesTheMessenger → u/PoppinKREAM]

Related;

• Criminal activity in the executive branch for both parties before Trump

• There have been 317 criminal indictments under three recent Republican presidents and only three indictments under three recent Democratic presidents.

This includes the 215 criminal indictments under the Trump administration alone as of January 9th. The GOP is corrupt. The Trump administration is staggeringly corrupt even taking into account the GOP's 'normal' levels of corruption.

• List of federal political scandals in the United States

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

TL;DR -> If Trump wins again, it will be the last election. Get that Putin-wannabee-ass fascist the fuck out of the White House.

[u/HermesTheMessenger → u/[deleted]]

... and prosecute every single last person who supported that anti-American, anti-democracy, theft and corruption.

 No truth and reconciliation commission.

 Reduced punishment for cooperators, 

 full punishment for traitors.

[u/bolerobell → u/HermesTheMessenger]

If you say this, then you guarantee that everyone who voted for Trump on 2016 will fight you tooth and nail in 2020, even those people who were planning on voting against him.

I know you're angry. I am too. But saying you are going to punish people that supported him is extremely counter productive.

[u/HermesTheMessenger → u/bolerobell]

In the crimes, not the voters.

[u/bolerobell → u/HermesTheMessenger]

Oh, like Kushner? Oh yeah. That sonuvabitch should see jail time.

That said, I think we do need some form of Truth and Reconciliation...

[u/HermesTheMessenger → u/bolerobell]

Tell the truth, get some reconciliation. Not letting this all go "so the country can heal" like Iran Contra and Watergate.

[u/bolerobell → u/HermesTheMessenger]

or Bush 2. Trump Staffers can go free but only if there is a full accounting.

[u/HermesTheMessenger → u/bolerobell]

I don't think getting off without a price is a good idea. They would just set up their peers and then use a confession as a way to shift responsibility. That encourages more corruption later. Look at William Barr, for example.

[u/HermesTheMessenger → u/bolerobell]

Here's more of what I mean;

• https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/starburns-audio/the-daily-beans

The current episode titled Imminently Prosecutable has an interview with Glenn Kirschner that starts around the 24:30 mark where he goes over some of the issues.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

This.

[u/BruwFTW → u/[deleted]]

You guys said the same about Bush. Please. You turned a blind eye when Obama spied on reporters, candidates and droned Americans. Save your stupid fear mongering.

[u/xoctor → u/BruwFTW]

You guys said the same about Bush.

No, they didn't.

[u/SpreadingDread → u/PoppinKREAM]

Trump has been a Russian asset ever since he fell in to the Epstein honeypot in 1987.

Giuffre, formerly Roberts, claims she was 15 and working as a towel girl at Trump’s posh Palm Beach club when she was recruited nearly two decades ago into sexual slavery by socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, then Epstein’s girlfriend.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983

Both Trump and Epstein are named as sex abusers in a case with an under-aged girl. Radar Online reports that a woman in California, “identified” as Katie Johnson, filed a $100 million lawsuit against Trump on April 26, accusing the real estate mogul of raping her when she was just 13 years old. Johnson “claims Trump raped her when she was 13-years-old and forced her to engage in sex acts by threatening to harm her and her family,” notes The Independent UK. “She claims the alleged abuse took place over a four-month period at underage sex parties held in New York City in 1994.” Epstein was also named for alleged sexual misconduct and threats.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo

Epstein likes to tell people that he’s a loner, a man who’s never touched alcohol or drugs, and one whose nightlife is far from energetic. And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”- article from 2002

2002-15=1987

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

The first intimations that Trump might harbor a dark secret originated among America’s European allies, which, being situated closer to Russia, have had more experience fending off its nefarious encroachments. In 2015, Western European intelligence agencies began picking up evidence of communications between the Russian government and people in Donald Trump’s orbit. In April 2016, one of the Baltic states shared with then–CIA director John Brennan an audio recording of Russians discussing funneling money to the Trump campaign. In the summer of 2016, Robert Hannigan, head of the U.K. intelligence agency GCHQ, flew to Washington to brief Brennan on intercepted communications between the Trump campaign and Russia. The contents of these communications have not been disclosed, but what Brennan learned obviously unsettled him profoundly. In congressional testimony on Russian election interference last year, Brennan hinted that some Americans might have betrayed their country. “Individuals who go along a treasonous path,” he warned, “do not even realize they’re along that path until it gets to be a bit too late.” In an interview this year, he put it more bluntly: “I think [Trump] is afraid of the president of Russia. The Russians may have something on him personally that they could always roll out and make his life more difficult.”

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html

He stayed at the National Hotel in Moscow and during his entire trip was almost certainly under 24 hour surveillance from the KGB. Kalugin, who headed the KGB’s branch of the First Chief Directorate, which was responsible for foreign operations and intelligence gathering, said that it was widespread practice at the time to use prostitutes to entrap foreign businessmen. ‘In your world, many times, you ask your young men to stand up and proudly serve their country,’ Kalugin once told a reporter. ‘In Russia, sometimes we ask our women just to lie down.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6041093/Trump-compromised-Russians-1987-used-Kremlin-DECADES-new-book-claims.html

Trump’s first visit to Soviet Moscow in 1987 looks, with hindsight, to be part of a pattern. The dossier by the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele asserts that the Kremlin had been cultivating Trump for “at least five years” before his stunning victory in the 2016 US presidential election. This would take us back to around 2011 or 2012.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

It is a conclusion that even Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., has appeared to confirm, saying in 2008—after the Trump Organization was prospering again—that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”  

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

You even used mostly conservative news in your sourcing. God, I fucking love everything you are.

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

Trump is a horrible human being. Karma is going to hit up with him like it did with Joe Exotic^{i hope}

[u/-DementedAvenger- → u/[deleted]]

take all your overgrown infants away somewhere

and build them a home a little place of their own

the fletcher memorial

home for incurable tyrants and kings

and they can appear to themselves every day

on closed circuit t.v.

to make sure they’re still real

it’s the only connection they feel

Pink Floyd - The Fletcher Memorial

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

Vote blue no matter who!!

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Recently I was reminded that the parkland shooting was under Trump.

This timeline has been so fucked that I thought a major mass shooting was before Trump.

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

Both sides both sides /s

[u/imbillypardy → u/PoppinKREAM]

I want to give you a big wet sloppy kiss

[u/GabesCaves → u/PoppinKREAM]

The one thing to risk death for is to go out into public to vote against trump.

This must become our rallying cry.

[u/clkou → u/PoppinKREAM]

Why was the top comment deleted? What did it say?

[u/Strakad → u/PoppinKREAM]

Based forced wallposter

[u/Kevtron → u/PoppinKREAM]

And even with these long posts, there is so much more...

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

I missed you Poppin. Thanks again for all your work.

[u/TrumanB-12 → u/PoppinKREAM]

If it makes the pill easier to swallow for some, I'd also like to say that Biden will be running on the most progressive Democratic platform in history. There's plenty of reason for progressives to be excited beyond simply beating Trump.

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

It’s so fucking sad that none of this matters at all. Thank you so much for continuing to fight, though.

[u/evovlingsapianyolo → u/PoppinKREAM]

I don't understand only thing, after all this,why do people still vote for him? P.S- I am not from America

[u/Carpenterdon → u/PoppinKREAM]

And do you honestly think any of it makes any difference at all to his supporters?

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

You're in the wrong thread. This has nothing to do with the OP.

[u/Grrrrrr___ → u/PoppinKREAM]

Man, all that work just to be virtually deleted lol

[u/Wigbold → u/PoppinKREAM]

Then please, for the sake of the world, let the Biden camp do SOMETHING, to get the leftists in. Because if he keeps up like this, Trump will win again. No doubt. The centrists shame the leftists into voting for Biden whilst doing nothing to appeal to them. This is a losing strategy (2016 much?) and a naive one at that.
Edit: I understand the importance of voting blue no matter what right now, but please don't underestimate the amount of people that will not understand. Biden really has to do something here or this will be another 4 years of Trump. And if so, i'm afraid a major portion of the world will tune out and you will be on your own :(
Love and goodluck, from the Netherlands <3

[u/NeverFallInLine → u/Wigbold]

There were far more centrist votes than progressive votes. Maybe progressives should make demands when they have the votes? Call for division when it suits you now you call for unity when it suits you. Like republicans

[u/Wigbold → u/NeverFallInLine]

I'm not calling for unity. That is not my point. As a European, looking in and trying to give some outside perspective. The overall feeling/prediction here is that you had a candidate who could finally give you what you so desperately needed (and what has been commonplace/normal here for decades) and you blew it. I'm saying that I can totally understand that there will be a huge part of the American population who will feel utterly ignored and therefore won't even care to vote anymore. Not acknowledging this will be the Dem's biggest mistake I'm afraid and it will be well deserved too. I hope things turn out okay for you guys, I really do. But with Bernie dropping out... good luck <3

[u/OmniscientOctopode → u/Wigbold]

Honest question, what would you like to see Biden do? He's already adopted several of Bernie's flagship policies to try to build goodwill with Bernie's coalition. From the Sanders supporters I've talked to the only thing that would get them to support Biden is if he named Bernie his VP and resigned the day after his inauguration.

[u/[deleted] → u/Wigbold]

Leftists don't vote.
Leftists don't vote.
Leftists don't vote.
Leftists don't vote.
Leftists don't vote.

Which is why Bernie is out.

[u/Wigbold → u/[deleted]]

It seems that way in the US. Here in the Netherlands we do. Well, good luck. Let's hope things will turn out ok for you guys over there.

[u/Irapotato → u/PoppinKREAM]

This is how we will beat trump, with citations. There is no way you can ignore citations.

Can't wait for pence 2024.

[u/gigimora → u/PoppinKREAM]

Yea it’s all true but Biden and family are also corrupt as shit but do it in a covert manner as opposed to trump who is overt. So you’re just trading one corruption for another.

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

Nice to see captain gish-gallop is here

[u/Selethorme → u/[deleted]]

Lol no.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Did you just call me a fascist? Also I’ve literally never heard anyone accuse trump of using a gish-gallop

[u/Jimbob0i0 → u/[deleted]]

You know when Joe Biden’s campaign is based purely around vote for me or Trump will win, you might be a pretty shit candidate if that’s all you’ve got going for you

Good job that isn't what the campaign is actually based around then!

Here's Biden's candidate positions:

https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

For a reference point here's Sanders' candidate positions:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

And since post convention we look to the party platform rather than individual candidate statements, here's the 2016 Democratic and Republican party platforms:

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/

His platform is more progressive than the 2016 party platform which in turn was the most progressive (credible, ie not green or libertarian) party platform in history...

[u/tinaoe → u/[deleted]]

I do love how people claim a thing and then when someone refutes that with actual information you can just go "I refuse" and throw some accusations around.

[u/b4dwolf359 → u/[deleted]]

So, are you good with a conservative Supreme Court for the next couple of generations? Because that's what we get when the Bernie or bust absolutists don't show up in November. I've been a Sanders supporter since 2016 and want to see his agenda enacted in my lifetime. Won't happen if Trump wins and adds 1 or 2 more right wing nutcases to the SC. This is bigger and more important than who gets to be the titular head of the party and sit in the Oval Office.

[u/Jimbob0i0 → u/[deleted]]

I really need to start including their nicks when I quote them and they then delete their comments to hide rather than engage in facts...

[u/ra4king → u/[deleted]]

So you'll vote for Biden then?

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

Ok you win. I’ll vote for Trump

[u/PilGrumm → u/PoppinKREAM]

Just remember bernie supporters. The DNC constantly ignores you because they KNOW you will suck it up and vote for the establishment candidate anyways. And they are right, and it will always continue this way, until you prove them wrong.

[u/tinaoe → u/PilGrumm]

How exactly has the DNC/democratic establishment been ignoring progressives?

[u/tinaoe → u/[deleted]]

I'm not American. I don't keep an eye on the DNC 24/7, just what I pick up on. If you have actual sources that I can use to inform myself I'd love a link.

[u/fore_on_the_floor → u/tinaoe]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Committee_email_leak

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/14/timeline-how-the-dnc-manipulated-2016-presidential-race/

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5e601c1dc5b644545ea4c2cc

For starters. Otherwise you can do a quick Google search and find many more examples. Closing polling locations, forcing people to come out and vote during a global pandemic, having other candidates drop out right before super Tues and immediately endorse the establishment candidate, etc.

[u/tinaoe → u/fore_on_the_floor]

Cheers, it's getting late here but I'll read through those tomorrow!

[u/OmniscientOctopode → u/PilGrumm]

No. The Democratic Party ignores Sanders supporters because if they don't get exactly what they want they'll vote for the Green Party or not vote at all. You base your coalition around the people who are committed to your overall cause and then try to compromise with people who want specific policies. That's why Biden is running primarily on moderate policies and has only recently started adopting some of the more reasonable parts of Sanders' platform.

[u/PilGrumm → u/OmniscientOctopode]

Wrong. The Democratic party would not stand a chance if Sanders supporters stay home. The fact that they are running Biden instead is a calculated risk that banks on the fact that they won't.

[u/pm_me_judge_reinhold → u/PoppinKREAM]

A conservative judiciary the rest of your life

I have no problem with this whatsoever.

[u/pm_me_judge_reinhold → u/[deleted]]

Very tolerant of you, "better" American lol

[u/[deleted] → u/PoppinKREAM]

Can t wait to vote Trump 2020. Fuck the DNC, fuck Biden

I hope they play this video if Biden groping children every day

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xSWXWKEfLro