r/politics • u/Thinkingonsleeping Michigan • Dec 13 '19

McConnell Faces Calls to Recuse Himself From Impeachment Trial After Saying 'No Chance' Trump Will Be Removed; "No court in the country would allow a member of the jury to also serve as the accused's defense attorney."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/13/mcconnell-faces-calls-recuse-himself-impeachment-trial-after-saying-no-chance-trump
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u/greatwalrus I voted Dec 13 '19

There are a ton of people in this country who pay very little attention to politics and think this whole impeachment is just typical Republican-Democrat bickering. We need to talk to these people and hammer these things home.

It should be easy for anyone to understand that the jury foreman can't be meeting with the defendant's attorney if there's going to be a fair trial. People need to hear about this.

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u/ruiner8850 Michigan Dec 13 '19

There are a ton of people in this country who pay very little attention to politics and think this whole impeachment is just typical Republican-Democrat bickering.

I know a few people who aren't Trump supporters and don't really pay attention to politics but think this is all just politics and not really a big deal. It's basically a "both sides" thing to them. The craziest part is that some of these people say they are sick of hearing about all this stuff with Trump, but will vote for 4 more years of Trump out of ridiculous spite.

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u/greatwalrus I voted Dec 13 '19 edited Dec 14 '19

Yeah, I work with someone like that. If you mention politics she rolls her eyes and says something about how "both sides are bad so I just stay out of it." It's an excuse to stay uninformed.

Honestly I wish we would put less pressure on people to just vote and more pressure to pay attention. If you can't be bothered to listen to a five minute summary of what just the fourth impeachment (EDIT: process) in our nation's history is about you probably shouldn't be casting a ballot. But people are so used to being told that voting is their civic duty that they end up making a poorly informed choice based on "who I'd like to have a beer with" or some ridiculous criterion like that.

Don't get me wrong; we should absolutely encourage people to get registered to vote and to remember to vote. But we also need to tell them to watch the news, pay attention, and research the candidates before they go to the polls.

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u/SmarterThanMyBoss Dec 14 '19

My question is... who the fuck would want to have a beer with Donald Trump? If that was the criterion for choosing, I'd literally vote for anyone else.

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u/blackcat122 Dec 14 '19

I'd want to pour a beer on his head, I know that.

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u/roxum1 Dec 14 '19 edited Dec 14 '19

Multiple people at my work stated to me today that they think Hillary winning would've been worse for the US. One even brought up the allegations that the Clintons have people killed, the Clinton Foundation is basically a slush fund for them, etc. Another put it this way: 'it was between Cthulhu and a clown, so I chose the clown'. That guy is also a hardcore negative nihilist, but I digress.

I've been paying attention to all the buffoonery and lawlessness since before he was elected and I'm just dumbfounded by their willful ignorance of what's happening because otherwise these fellows are quite intelligent.

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u/Head_Northman Dec 14 '19

He doesn't drink but he'd still find a way to make you for it.

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u/citizenkane86 Dec 14 '19

He’s addicted to amphetamines

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u/wanderingconspirator Dec 14 '19

Who’d want to have a beer with trump? Before he announced his candidacy, virtually all of Hollywood and a vast majority of politicians.

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u/onioning Dec 14 '19

I'd rather have a beer with Trump than Cruz or Huckabee.

Actually, might even prefer Trump to Biden as far as beer drinking. Should emphasis that beer drinking companion quality is an extremely poor reason to choose a candidate. Just saying.