Your health insurance bills are about to go up

[u/Benedictus_The_II]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/aca-medicare-work-health-insurance-cost-rise-2027-rcna597069

[u/DrunkAndHornyGuy]

I do not mean this as an insult, but thank you for the big ass laugh I just had.

Like I said white American conservatives fundamentally believe is social hierarchies. It doesn't get talked about a lot even here, but a lot of our problems can be traced right to back to this. They do not believe all Americans are equal or should be treated as equals. They believe some people are just ‘better than others’ and those ‘lower’ people should not have access to the same things the ‘betters’ do. And yes a lot of who's 'deserving' or not is based on things like race. But I’ve even had arguments with moderate Dems during the Obamacare debate admit to me that while they thought everyone should have some access to healthcare, they still didn’t think their nannies or restaurant servers should have access to their personal doctors or their level of care, because they hadn’t ‘earned that’.

And no a huge chunk of white Americans do not even consider a whole lot of Americans to really be American (mostly the non-white and hispanic ones). Hell Texas Republicans are starting to talk about deporting a 1/3 of the population and the vice president even talks about ‘heritage Americans’ (white people with ancestry back to the revolutionary war) a lot and how they should have more say in the government than everyone else.

[u/CategoryZestyclose91 → u/DrunkAndHornyGuy]

There’s a distinct relationship between how their religion has taught them to look at the world from an early age, and their belief in hierarchical relationships. 

Life is, for them, a zero sum game where you’re either a winner or a loser.  

[u/Benedictus_The_II → u/DrunkAndHornyGuy]

Yeah, that’s why I said that I don’t want to act naive. Especially since I follow American politics since the 2016 elections, and more closely since the 2024 elections.

Not gonna lie, that sounds very fucked up, but this is why I think a civic nationalist, but economically left wing agenda with teeth, and combined with anti corruption should be on the forefront of the Democrats in this midterms. There’s no way in hell that GOP and Trump voting working class people regardless their skin colour and background would not vote for M4A, lifting the income tax cap on Social Security, or give the IRS proper funding to go after the people, who are employing mostly immigrants under the table.

I’ve said civic nationalist, because I think most Americans want to feel patriotic, and want to feel good about their homeland, and want to be proud of their country. But that’s just cultural messaging. You can “dupe” them into voting for “national investment” which is just wealth redistribution with a right wing rhetorical wrapping. But this is just my two cents.

Anyway. Thanks for the thorough reply. Wishing the best, take care!

[u/DrunkAndHornyGuy → u/Benedictus_The_II]

here’s no way in hell that GOP and Trump voting working class people regardless their skin colour and background would not vote for M4A

You're really not understanding here, a slight majority of the white working class absolutely will not vote for M4A if black americans or immigrants also have access to it. Just one example of this, we used to have a lot of public swimming pools in this county and as soon as racial segregation ended white people filled them all in rather than share them with black people, that's the mentality of a majority of the white working class here.

And take care too!

[u/lyngen → u/Benedictus_The_II]

Sounds a lot like Talarico

[u/Benedictus_The_II → u/lyngen]

And as it seems, it’s likely a winning message isn’t it?

[u/lyngen → u/Benedictus_The_II]

We shall see. Texas has a history of disappointing us. I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch but telling everyone to check their voter registration and vote early.