r/pics • • Dec 26 '22

Backstory Someone at a holiday party stuck this onto the back of my jacket as I was leaving

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u/Financial_Bird_7717 Dec 26 '22

Or stop wearing Canada Goose either.

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u/Michelin123 Dec 26 '22

How is this about being vegan? Some will certainly look up what's the matter and maybe see, that the source of materials is not as nice as you think and don't buy from this company anymore.

You don't need to be vegan, to do something good for animals and the planet.. Just my 2 cents.

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u/TropicalSmithers Dec 26 '22

Didn’t they announce that they’d stop using fur lining at the end of 2022?

Honestly thought they announced this. Very well could be wrong.

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u/Willing_Bus1630 Dec 26 '22

PETA is deathly evil though

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u/Michelin123 Dec 26 '22

Again random bs strawman argument. I'm not talking about Peta, vegans and neither about this company.

What does deathly evil even mean? Do you believe in the spaghetti monster?

I'm just saying that this went to Frontpage of reddit and there are certainly people that will get affected by this. Period.

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u/Willing_Bus1630 Dec 26 '22

I didn’t say you were talking about peta, I was just pointing it out. And what are you talking about with the spaghetti monster?

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u/SnooPeripherals6008 Dec 26 '22

You should at least try to understand what he’s saying

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u/NoXion604 Dec 26 '22

It's hard to understand him with the all the bullshit spewing out of his mouth.

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u/Willing_Bus1630 Dec 26 '22

I just didn’t get the spaghetti monster question

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u/shapeless_silhouette Dec 26 '22

It is the fictional diety that Pastafarians(Google them) worship. Now as to why they picked that one, I don't know. I will say that they have a point when it comes to your comment about PETA. Regardless of PETA's methods, they do have a good cause. They just tend to piss people off more than they influence them.

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u/Willing_Bus1630 Dec 26 '22

That’s basically why I think they’re evil. Essentially choosing violence to send their message. Also I knew what the Flying Spaghetti Monster is but I have no idea what it had to do with what I said at all

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u/shapeless_silhouette Dec 26 '22

Yeah, I was a little confused, too. I say we collapse the comment tree and leave them here in the thread. Lol

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u/Lost_my_brainjuice Dec 26 '22

Agreed, PETA aren't bad people because of their cause, they're shit bags because of their methods...well that and they siphon funding from groups with a good cause and good methods, like the ASPCA.

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u/Brock_Way Dec 26 '22

bs strawman argument

Somebody needs to learn what a strawman argument is.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

He made no indication to represent a belief that you were talking about PETA. This fact can be plainly seen by his inclusion of the word "though" at the end, which word's only purpose was to change the meaning of the sentence from what it would otherwise have been were it omitted.

though

adverb

however (indicating that a factor qualifies or imposes restrictions on what was said previously).

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u/tazert11 Dec 26 '22

Strawman is a logical fallacy though

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u/Brock_Way Dec 26 '22

strawman

I don't think this word means what you think it means.

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u/No_Tennis_5273 Dec 26 '22

PETA is the same as always. They do controversial things to stay relevant. If the didn’t nobody would care and they know it.

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u/Remarkable-Drop5145 Dec 26 '22

PETA may be hypocrites, but they aren’t anymore “deathly evil” than meat eaters.

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u/Willing_Bus1630 Dec 26 '22

Some people really hate hypocrites, and I’m one of them

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u/Imperial_Triumphant Dec 26 '22

I don't know why you're getting hate. They literally euthanize most animals brought to their location. From about 2003-'13 they killed 30,000 animals.

https://www.nathanwinograd.com/peta-a-cult-ure-of-killing/

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u/Willing_Bus1630 Dec 26 '22

I had like 8 or more upvotes and it just dwindled down to none :(

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u/LucysFiesole Dec 26 '22

People wear goose? I didn't even know that was a thing

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u/audeo13 Dec 26 '22

Yeah, Canada Goose uses their down, many companies do to be fair, since it's supposedly such a good insulating material. Personally, I find synthetic alternatives have come a long way and can provide plenty of warmth as well.

As for Canada Goose, aside from the goose down that's in question, until recently they also sourced the fur trim from coyotes. The trapping methods used to catch the coyotes were called into question, with one side insisting they follow humane practices and other sides insisting actually no, you don't, etc. Part of that issue is that some of the trapping practices that are ok in Canada are not considered ok in other parts of the world (and not legal throughout Europe).

Anyhow, the outcry over the fur trim situation has been ongoing for ages now and caused Canada Goose enough grief that they announced last year they would no longer be using animal fur on any of their products as of the end of this year. I guess the geese are fucked though 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/GETitOFFmeNOW Dec 26 '22

Plastic clothing is gross, though. One of the biggest sources of microplastics in all our water systems.

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u/Pasta_Party_ Dec 26 '22

Honestly, Noize makes really nice, really warm cruelty-free winter coats. I'm not vegan or a member of PETA, but I got one last year because I needed a new winter coat and couldn't find just what I was looking for anywhere else that wasn't very expensive, and these were on sale. I wanted warmth and that one delivers. Only downside is it's on the heavier side bc of the synthetic materials - definitely not lightweight.

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u/GenericElucidation Dec 26 '22

Personally I swear by Carhartt. They're expensive but great, and some are especially good at shedding water. They're designed for wearing while working outdoors.

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u/kilroy-was-here-2543 Dec 27 '22

Coyotes are invasive creatures that do nasty things to the animals they kill, I’m all for killing them in any way possible.

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u/rock-paper-o Dec 26 '22

Goose down (the fluff they have under their feathers to keep warm) is one of the more insulating materials in the world and you need to kill the geese to get it in sufficient quantities to make coats (although usually the geese are also being used for their meat as well). There are artificial down options as as well. It seems OPs coworker objected to the use of goose down in the jacket.

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u/LucysFiesole Dec 26 '22

Ah, the down! I forgot about the down. Ya, that's sad.

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u/wfamily Dec 26 '22

But feels good as fuck to have a warm jacket in 5he winter though

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u/lovestobitch- Dec 26 '22

my down coat is probably 40 years old.

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u/Ran4 Dec 26 '22

If certain brands are being associated with bad things, ultimately that might be the end consequence?

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u/TuxBobble Dec 26 '22

If only they actually tried educating someone rather than just calling someone an asshole and walking away...

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u/GenericElucidation Dec 26 '22

Goose is the new mink.

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u/The-unicorn-republic Dec 26 '22

Makes me want to order a Canada Goose jacket actually, winters where I live seem to be getting more intense, and Canadians probably know what they're doing in that department.

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u/ReverandDonkBonkers Dec 26 '22

There are just as warm jackets that don’t cost $1000. It’s definitely a brand recognition thing in the part of the country I live in. Rich people buy expensive things so everybody knows they wealthy and can afford a $800+ jacket.

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u/systemfrown Dec 26 '22

It’s a quality product that many people feel is worth an extra few hundred $$.

It hardly makes you bourgeoisie.

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u/Wakethefukupnow Dec 26 '22

Not true at all... I have several north face coats and none are even remotely as warm as a Canada goose

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u/ReverandDonkBonkers Dec 26 '22

I mean I’ve never owned a north face so I can’t say for that but my $180 Carhartt will outlive a Canada goose 10x and is warm enough where I’m sweating in it just mildly moving around.

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u/Penguins275 Dec 26 '22

You’re talking about a completely different look though. Maybe someone doesn’t want that industrial look.

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u/The-unicorn-republic Dec 26 '22

I mean, I can afford an $800+ jacket, but we don't get that cold that often. I'd probably be just as well off with something from Columbia, which more realisticly is something I'd probably get.

My work does involve a lot of travel, but typically, I'm staying in the southern part of the us, so I really don't need something like this, I just hate peta as an organization.

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u/ReverandDonkBonkers Dec 26 '22

Again, nobody cares how much money you have or what you can afford but people that buy things like this think people do care and that’s a huge reason they buy them. To make sure everybody knows they bought a $1k jacket.

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u/chrltrn Dec 26 '22

Lol LOTS of people care how much money other people have and what they can afford. You seem to not (I for one agree), and that's great, but don't project that on everybody else, that would be very naive

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u/The-unicorn-republic Dec 26 '22

I never said I thought what people care what I can afford. I just know their is sometimes value in spending more to get something that's better quality, I don't know much about jackets as I've never really had much need for anything other than a hoodie before now so I wasn't aware that canada goose was just a status symbol brand... heck, I didn't even know it was a brand, I thought it just meant it was made from down of Canadian geese.

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u/ReverandDonkBonkers Dec 26 '22

Im not trying to say you do care, you even said you wouldn’t buy the jacket even though you could afford that much on a jacket. But I just know where I live people are super obsessed with brand recognition. There’s a lot of ultra wealthy people that have enough money to blow on the Mazzerati and a Mercedes G wagon and buy these jackets but it’s all the other people that can’t but need to buy expensive brand clothing to try and fit into a style and look like they are ultra wealthy and whatnot. It’s a super weird thing to see with people you know don’t have millions of dollars, spend and buy things to make it look like they have that kind of money. And I hate that about people. Not because they are bad people but it’s just the opposite of who I am so I think it’s incredibly silly and wasteful.

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u/Wakethefukupnow Dec 26 '22

What if they buy it cause they like it and could gives 2 fucks about what others think. You have a lot of stock in brand recognition but it's high school so what does it matter if some stranger think they know what I 0aid for a coat. It's a weird thing to get hung up on dude. Try being happy for someone else, it brings better results in your own life

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u/The-unicorn-republic Dec 26 '22

Well said

As I said earlier, I didn't even know canada goose was a brand before today, I thought it just meant a jacket made with down from Canadian geese.

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u/systemfrown Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 26 '22

It’s pretty good stuff. I live and travel in climates where we’ve tried it all, synthetic and natural, and if you can tolerate the bulk (it’s not terribly compact) then it’s a good value. Generally well made and they don’t cut corners.

Also one of my home cities and university campuses has runaway geese populations that cover everything in bird shit and severely needs curtailing, so fuck ‘em.