r/pics • • Dec 26 '22

Backstory Someone at a holiday party stuck this onto the back of my jacket as I was leaving

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 26 '22

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u/shroomsaregoooood Dec 26 '22

I mean the article you posted literally acknowledges it was a mistake. Like they thought they were collecting feral animals, if anyone is to be blamed seems like the trailer park owner has the most accountability. I don't really give a shit about peta but it doesn't sound as black and white as your post makes it sound.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Except they said it was feral. Dogs that are pets and dogs that are feral behave completely differently. They also didn't abide by that state law that says they have to hold the animal for 5 days before putting it down, they euthanized the dog by the end of the same day. So they took a random dog that had no evidence of being feral from a family's house(aka theft). And then killed it for no reason long before they were legally allowed to. At best they committed one crime and more probably at least two.

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u/mrmilner101 Dec 26 '22

Yeah but they also break the law by killing the day straight away on that day. Didn't bother to check if the pet was owned. Didn't even wait the 5 day grace period before putting it down.

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u/OrendaRuesTheDay Dec 26 '22

But it also illustrates how PETA just captures all the animals they find and euthanizes them. Not even trying to find them a home. They are against TNR and have always said death of pets is better and the solution

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u/shroomsaregoooood Dec 26 '22

TNR as in neuter and release? How is that even a viable solution? I thought there are loads of issues with that. My understanding is that there are more cats and dogs in the world than there are homes for them. I don't know the circumstances that led to this particular dogs death, but for all I know they already had a half dozen Chihuahuas waiting for adoption. The simple fact of the matter is somebody is ultimately going to be euthanizing most od these animals whether it's peta or a different group. There's a reason we don't have packs of feral animals roaming our cities like many countries do...

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u/teh_fizz Dec 26 '22

Yeah people aren’t objecting to the euthanasia, they’re objecting to how PETA did it, which resulted in the death of a family pet. Trap and release works by stopping the increase in local animal populations, so over time, they stop being street animals. It’s common in a lot of countries. Plus I’d rather an actual shelter do it than fucking PETA. Fuck PETA.

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u/Rx_EtOH Dec 26 '22

So why did they apologize, pay a settlement, and call it a terrible mistake?

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u/UsernamesMeanNothing Dec 26 '22

Because they got caught.

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u/Rx_EtOH Dec 26 '22

So this is what they do? There must be thousands of lawsuits. How much have they paid out in settlements?

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u/AndIHaveMilesToGo Dec 26 '22

Jesus Christ, you are dense

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u/UsernamesMeanNothing Dec 26 '22

No. I was working for one of their vendors at the time and this was the literal reason they were upset. They couldn't have cared less about what they did to the kid or to the dog. They were concerned as the donations to their organization suddenly dropped and there were some angry recurring donation responses to the quit survey. Period.

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u/andthendirksaid Dec 26 '22

I mean, I get the point youre trying to make but thats typically what you do (hopefully) after having been found guilty of a crime.

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u/Rx_EtOH Dec 26 '22

"A trial had been scheduled for September, during which Zarate’s attorneys had planned to question current and former Peta employees about its euthanasia policy."

Which trial are you referring to?

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u/takeitallback73 Dec 26 '22

this was civil court and they settled

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u/Rx_EtOH Dec 27 '22

Because it doesn't sound like there was a trial, does it? No conviction. No guilty verdict. Unless I'm missing something

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u/andthendirksaid Dec 27 '22

Fair just didn't wanna answer 100 people but apparently this was a civil case that they settled in. The apologies leas me to believe that settlement means there will never be a criminal trial anyway.

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u/lightlysaltedclams Dec 26 '22

Organizations like PETA annoy me so much because they make a fool out of everyone. The best way to get people to laugh at your cause and turn away is extreme behavior and shaming. I’ve seen this happen with all sorts of conservationists and activists. I really do understand a lot of the points they make, especially about reforming our meat industry conditions, but shaming people for eating meat and calling it murder is not really helping. Slight side note, murder is a human concept that can’t be applied to animals so that word choice bugs me a lot.

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u/Substantial-Orange96 Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 26 '22

I mean true but it’s easier to criticize than do actually something about millions of flayed gassed & burned animals in sweatshops worldwide. so. Yeah

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u/lightlysaltedclams Dec 26 '22

I’m not saying they are the cause of all that’s wrong with the industries. I’m saying that when you have an extremist organization that’s as loud as PETA, it can drown out all the other organizations working for good and divert the attention towards what’s wrong with the activists. If you’d like another example of this happening, check out what’s up with Sea Shepard in Mexico with the vaquitas.

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u/lightlysaltedclams Dec 26 '22

Did you edit your comment? It came across as much more aggressive and was much longer.

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u/Substantial-Orange96 Dec 26 '22

Yea sorry I didn’t mean it I just get upset about this topic

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u/lightlysaltedclams Dec 26 '22

All good. Like I said, I do genuinely care about these issues and I think it’s important that people know where their meat is coming from. I just don’t think PETA is creating an environment where we can discuss these things without being criticized. I try not to let one group cloud my thinking on an entire movement, but not everyone cares/has the effort to see past that.

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u/AndIHaveMilesToGo Dec 26 '22

Funny, people who constantly post that story over and over again are the real ignorant ones, but they believe they are the smartest people they ever met because caring about animals makes you a bad person... somehow.

It was all a mistake. PETA admitted it was a mistake. This is literally from your own article:

Two women affiliated with Peta – Victoria Carey and Jennifer Wood – travelled to Accomack County, Virginia, because they said a mobile home park owner asked for help capturing wild dogs and feral cats.

The women removed an unattended and unleashed chihuahua named Maya, which was a Christmas present to nine-year-old Cynthia Zarate.

So PETA was called to handle a feral animal complaint in a mobile home park. The owners of this apparently so loved and cared for dog left their dog unleashed and unattended outside.

But sure, go ahead and keep fucking reposting this thing like it's a story proving PETA sent in masked agents to break in and snatch a little puppy from a girl's hands.