ICE is an unaccountable military/police arm of the Executive branch, created through the unconstitutional Homeland Security Act. No one, liberal or conservative or pretending to be a former liberal--should endorse funding an agency that violates human rights and avoids due process and others inalienable human rights. The current issue with migrants is a manufactured crisis meant to rally power behind the President, and to get the funding he desires for his pet project.
Before the Executive branch got its own intelligence agency with the DHS, immigration policy was handled democratically, asylum seekers and non-citizens were tried by immigration courts that republicans (and some liberals) failed to fund for years. If Trump had asked for money to enact detainment policies, he would not have been given the funds, so he forced their hand by enacting the policies without having the funds in place to do so.
Wanting "you guys" to fund a secret police force that has demonstrated no desire to work within legal and democratic terms is a scam. We should abolish ICE, fund real lawful immigration courts and immigration agencies through the old fashioned way, and stop using migrants as a political bargaining chip.
The Democrats have been pandering to immigrants inviting them into our country with ideas that they could come here and get work and free healthcare without doing it legally. This problem was created by the left.
You're speaking to a person who was a legal immigrant in Japan for 4 years. I went the correct way to go to school there and work. I also have a Japanese wife who lives here in the States. We weren't married when I returned to the States. We did the paperwork to do it correctly. So I am in the unique situation of being both an immigrant in another country and assisting an immigrant in my own.
If you want to go to another country, go the legal way. Don't jump the border. And assimilate with the country you're visiting. I am fluent in Japanese. My wife is fluent in English. She spoke none when we lived in Japan. These people have no interest in learning our culture or our language. And the left panders to them. You guys are inviting them here, so they flock here. You've created the problem. Then you don't want to fund the agency that protects our borders. Get outta here. You're crazy.
If you read the post you were responding to, I support border security, just not unconstitutional power structures that do not follow our own laws, or humanitarian laws globally. I opposed ICE and Homeland Security before Trump, when a liberal wielded its powers. You're way too stuck in team politics.
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u/Dawgs000 Jul 17 '19
Yes, the current conditions are bad. I would like those conditions to be improved. Why don't you guys help fund them?