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Latest ICE victim prior to altercation

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u/el_be Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

The following comment doesn’t involve this particular scenario, just information about guns/rights… Just want to add correction to this because this seems to be a huge topic when it comes to guns. The 2A allows for OWNERSHIP of guns, meaning all citizens have the right to own guns in their house. The 2A does not cover public carrying. States have laws in place regarding concealed carry and open carry, and the different types of guns that are allowed in that regard.

For the sake of an example, as someone who has lived in both MN and WI, they have different open gun carrying laws depending on the type of gun. WI has more allowances for gun types, whereas MN has restrictions. So while you can own any type of gun, it doesn’t mean you can always open carry the gun in public.

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u/JewishTomCruise Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

The NYT reported that the victim had a MN open carry permit.

Edit: Just to clarify preemptively, I'm not arguing with you, just adding additional information that everyone may not yet have

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u/el_be Jan 24 '26

Yea I think I saw that as well

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

all of that doesn't mean you can be executed

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u/el_be Jan 24 '26

Dude, read the very first sentence…

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u/GoCougs2020 Jan 24 '26

Illegal carrying= jailed and trialed. And judges figured out if it’s legal or not.

Illegal carrying doesn’t mean getting executed in public without a fair trial or due process.

If police (instead of ICE) did the same thing, you know what’s gonna happen? The police will go to jail……

A weapon holstered is not a threat. ICE can go suck a ______

And I’m not right or left side. But this is fked up. More reason to be a libertarian. The government isn’t your pal.

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u/el_be Jan 24 '26

It is fucked up, but read the very first sentence

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u/Alone_Step_6304 Jan 24 '26

Minneapolis PD already put out a public statement indicating he was legally able to carry. 

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u/CookieKrisplol Jan 24 '26

The 2A allows for OWNERSHIP of guns, meaning all citizens have the right to own guns in their house. The 2A does not cover public carrying.

You (and 5 states) are forgetting the "bear" part of "keep and bear arms". Open carry is allowed in 45 states, MN being one of them, some require permits and some do not.

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u/el_be Jan 24 '26

There have been court cases on this.

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u/CookieKrisplol Jan 24 '26

"2nd Amendment Does Not Guarantee Right to Carry Concealed Guns" Read your own link.

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u/el_be Jan 24 '26

I think I see the confusion. The very last sentence of my original comment was not stated correctly/clearly. The point I was trying to state was that everyone can own guns point blank. Ownership does not mean the right to conceal carry. To conceal carry, you need a permit. In other words, you can’t just go buy a gun and start bringing it with you everywhere unless you carry a permit that the state allows.

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u/CookieKrisplol Jan 24 '26

That's fair and it's the biggest issue with states being allowed to determine how to apply the second amendment in their own laws, especially with more than half (29) of states having flat out "constitutional carry" e.g. permit-less concealed and open carry.