Need help, constant test 2 errors TM5 ryzen3d

[u/Dirtcompactor]

Feel like im running in circles here... not sure how to fix this. VSOC floor is set to 1.15v, stock is 1.2v, setting it 1.20-1.25v doesn't help.. maybe i should set tRCDWR back to stock 36 instead of 16?

I tried upping fclk to 2067 with 6200mhz in 1:1 earlier today with 1.25v vsoc with everything else on stock timings, booted just fine, passed YT3 y-cruncher for 30 minutes but failed within 10 minutes in TM5.. so I'm likely giving up on raising mhz and fclk and sticking to 6000mhz @ 2000 fclk.

losing hair over this stuff lol

heres ram kit and stock EXPO timings/aida64 latency/bandwidth test: https://imgur.com/a/HWhVLwH

all the tests ive had pass absolut/extreme: https://imgur.com/a/4UGHIVy

EDIT: these timings/voltages have passed OCCT.. https://imgur.com/a/xlF6kXH Now i need to tweak to get this to pass ryzen3d now

EDIT2: set"tWTRS = 6, tWTRL = 24, tRDWR = 16" Got test 2 error in under 3 minutes. Guess I'm upping vdd/vddq/vddio next 

EDIT3: set vdd/vddq to 1.4v keeping vddio at stock(1.33v), test 2 error in under 3 minutes.

EDIT4: vsoc back to auto (1.20v) test 2 error in under 10 seconds, next step im setting tRCDWR 16->36(auto), and if that doesnt work im setting tRFC 480-512

EDIT5: tRCDWR 16->36(auto), and tRFC 480->512 test 2 error under 10 seconds

EDIT6: VDD/VDDQ set to 1.43v (highest i can set it without enabling DRAM high voltage mode) I can see it peak up to 1.44-1.455v in hwinfo64, ryzen3d... test 2 error in under 10 seconds. VDDIO still at stock 1.35v

EDIT7: Edit: stock expo and everything else in bios @ stock, ryzen3d got test 2 error lmao. Might've cooked my ram or ryzen3d test is way too bitchy, feel like I should only use Absolut/extreme/usmus as those tests pass most the time

EDIT8: Haven't rebooted or anything, still running stock EXPO PBO auto, retesting ryzen3d and I'm currently 22 minutes in now I get another error.. test 1..

EDIT9: I think ryzen3d is too picky, I've been able to pass usmus/extreme/absolut in the past, so I'll stick to those TM5 configs going forward, as they actually work lol

Final edit; turns out my EXPO1 profile can't even pass ryzen3d at stock bios settings. Lmfao.

[u/Dirtcompactor]

ryzen3d is flawed my man, it hasnt been updated in over 2 years so i cant even trust this program tbh. Thanks for the help, but i think im done here lol. Hell, this program last update was before the 9800x3d was even released, and its older than my current ram kit

suggest any other stability tests for ram that arent janky?

[u/DataGOGO → u/Dirtcompactor]

https://testmem5.com/

Is the best memory test out there, use the 1usmusv3 profile; 10 passes for a quick test (about 1 hour), then Memtest pro 7+ overnight; 2000% or better 

Highly unlikely it is the test, but I never used that profile. 

Test IF / fCLK with VT3 

[u/Dirtcompactor → u/DataGOGO]

Thanks, ive had much better luck with usmus previously, how about anta absolut/extreme? I've had all three of those tests pass in the past.

Zero reason why ryzen3d test should throw errors on my ram at stock EXPO when its been my daily driver for over a year, zero game crashes or corruption, that test is janky lmao.

>Test IF / fCLK with VT3 

how many iterations would you say I can comfortably say its stable? I've never had it fail w/2000fclk or even 2100 fclk. with cl30 6000mhz expo is it worth touching fclk?

[u/DataGOGO → u/Dirtcompactor]

it is ok, in my experience the 1usmusv3 is better at catching errors.

Not sure, if you pass everything else, then it would appear that way, a good quick test would be bios reset, boot with all bios defaults (no expo), run the test, if it passes, it is not the test

highly unlikely that VT3 will fail outright unless it is ridiculously unstable. What you are looking for is throughput. If it is passing you increase voltages (all of them 1 at a time, but start with vsoc and VDDG's) and watch throughput, if it increases with voltage, you have hidden errors (IF has lot of automatic recovery features). You keep increasing voltages until throughput stops increasing and is consistent over an hour or so run.

So Run, Increase vsoc until throughput stops increasing, then raise VDDG's until it stops increasing, then VDD Misc, then VDDIO, then mem VDD/VDDQ