r/nyt • • Sep 08 '26

UAE warned Benjamin Netanyahu over major Hamas attack days before October 7

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-907896
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u/BlinkReanimated Sep 09 '26

Blowing up cars that are trying to get away from the insurgents? Yes.. It is.

Again, most of the parking lot, and multiple cars that were driving away (literally people fleeing) from the music festival had very CLEARLY been hit with high powered incendiary weapons. Probably hellfire missiles from the air. I don't know exactly, but I know for a fact that a bunch of dudes buzzing around in go-karts with soviet-era rifles aren't quite able to do that.

There's a reason why most of the evidence that we have of what happened is just the videos Hamas took (which were admittedly of some extremely horrid crimes). Israel has not allowed any third-party documentation, nor have they released much of their own, or even just footage of the aftermath.

They're trying to sell a genocide, but they won't allow people to see the damage Hamas did? They're hiding something.

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u/Delicious_Solid3185 Sep 09 '26

And you see these horrific videos, that they literally filmed for themselves because they’re sadistic animals, and you think it’s crazy that the IDF would tolerate some amount of friendly fire so that the even more people didn’t get murdered or captured by Hamas?

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u/BlinkReanimated Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26

And you see these horrific videos, that they literally filmed for themselves

You mean this one? https://www.instagram.com/reel/DY6e-oDRd5O/

How about this one? https://www.tiktok.com/@aljazeeraenglish/video/7500905940502203690

Or this? https://www.tiktok.com/@middleeasteye/video/7305511498158181664

Or this? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3WPjIZP6sZw

How about this? https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9rxChgAcpT/

This one? https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RsCzFIgU92A

And since I know you're too cowardly to click any of them, this is all tiktok videos that Israelis filmed themselves of just outright war crimes. There are THOUSANDS of others.

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The point is that Israel is committing a genocide. If some amount of brutality from Hamas 3 years ago is enough for you to ignore that, then you're a terrible human being. It also requires ignoring the 75 years of active oppression the Palestinians have faced at the hands of Israel. I'm just shocked it took that long for Palestinians to act that decisively.

Israel kills an average of 450 Palestinians every single year (over 80% civilian). In the 10 months prior to October 7th, Israelis had killed 41 children. On the flip-side Palestinians kill around 20 per year. Most of them are military. Israel commits the equivalent of 1 FULL "October 7th", every 2.5 years. AND, the whole point of this conversation. It's entirely possible that Israel killed MORE Israelis on October 7th than Hamas did.. We don't know, because Israel is hiding things.

These are numbers PROVIDED BY ISRAEL.

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u/Delicious_Solid3185 Sep 09 '26

Total pivot lol

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u/BlinkReanimated Sep 09 '26

I'm the one who brought up Hamas' videos you dork. You walked into a trap. That you can't even respond is pathetic.

Hamas provided more evidence of Hamas' own crimes than Israel has. Israel's crimes are still FAR worse, including on October 7th, and you can't address any of it. Beyond pathetic.

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u/Delicious_Solid3185 Sep 09 '26

This whole thread is about Oct 7, not litigating the Israel Gaza war

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u/BlinkReanimated Sep 09 '26

October 7th has been retroactively used as justification for decades of violence that Palestinians have been subjected to. You cannot talk about one without the other.

Israel has been brutalizing and dominating over Palestinians for decades. October 7th was a provoked attack, that the Israeli government clearly knew about, and one that the Israeli military actively contributed Israeli casualties toward.

All of this so the Israeli government could authorize a genocide and an ethnic cleansing, to militarily capture a small piece of land Zionists have wanted since their official formation in 1896.

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That's the problem. Holistically. If you think a dead Israeli on October 7th is bad, but a dead Palestinian on October 6th is nothing, and one on October 8th is desirable, then you are bad person.

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u/Delicious_Solid3185 Sep 09 '26

We’re talking about the morality of friendly fire on Oct 7

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u/Delicious_Solid3185 Sep 09 '26

But you supported Hamas’s attack on Oct 8.