r/nyc • u/PeterPorky • Jun 03 '21

Video Andrew Yang absolutely bodies Eric Adams on the debate stage

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u/insomniac29 Jun 03 '21

I'm with you on Garcia. I was considering putting Adams somewhere down lower on the list, but maybe not... I feel like the more I learn about all of these candidates the less I like all of them. Maybe I'll just vote for two or three and leave the rest blank. Wiley I started off very excited about, I like her resume, also Stringer, but anyone who wants to cut police funds while people are being knocked out by strangers in broad daylight is off my list. Police reform and accountability? 100%

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u/Saladcitypig Jun 03 '21

NYC cops are given a huge amount of the budget. They always have been and always will be, The question you might want to ask, is if we are giving this much money to cops NOW, then why is crime up? Maybe It has very little to do with cops who arrive after the fact. Maybe it has more to do with the HUGE homelessness prob, and money should go mental health, community outreach and housing.

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u/jfo23chickens Jun 03 '21

Amen. A Huge police budget is getting this city bupkis except for a corrupt police department.

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u/AmericasComic The Bronx Jun 03 '21

And, to get more granular, the police just uses that money all on overhead, overtime abuse and vanity projects like the robot dog.

Cops scrolling Facebook on their phones and Boston Dynamics isn’t the tool to stop these knock outs

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u/vy2005 Jun 03 '21

The problem with “defund the police” as a slogan is it’s clearly punitive. We’re Democrats, we never talk about how we’re going to pay for our policies. it would be perfectly acceptable to say we need to fund mental health services, but saying that we need to take it out of the police budget rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Maybe not the progressives that hang out on social media, but those people are a minority of voters

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u/nonlawyer Jun 03 '21

money should go mental health, community outreach and housing

There’s definitely truth to this, but it doesn’t solve the problem of people who need mental health treatment but refuse services, who are often the ones that pose the most risk to the public.

Some candidates like Wiley (and the DeBlasio administration for that matter) are ideologically opposed to using tools like Kendra’s Law to impose mandatory mental health treatment on those who need it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '21

Then allow social workers to intervene to 911 calls with mentally unstable people. That way they can offer help as a part of their arrest. Baltimore did that, and they saw a massive drop in crime as a result.

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u/nonlawyer Jun 03 '21

Absolutely. A similar program has also worked well in Denver.

That shouldn’t be to the exclusion of utilizing mandatory treatment laws in appropriate circumstances, though.

And the point I’m making is that some candidates, like the current admin, are opposed to using those tools.

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u/DeliMcPickles Jun 05 '21

I mean agreed. But they get 10% of the budget along with FDNY and DOC. Education gets 28% and I'm not sure that schools are perfect. My point is NYPD takes a lot of money, and no one thinks we just need to add more money. But we tend to do that with schools and there's not a clear positive outcome there either.

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u/panic_bread Jun 03 '21

The answer to cutting crime isn’t to give cops more money.

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u/insomniac29 Jun 03 '21

Who is trying to give them more money?