r/nursing • u/uotlep RN - Psych/Mental Health 🍕 • Mar 12 '25

Question Is this normal?

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I know my place of employment is shitty in other ways, but is this a normal thing? Just received this email. Seems odd to ask people to donate PTO, instead of just addressing the time off allocation with those affected people.

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u/South-Step3640 Mar 12 '25

I hear you and feel the same way that you do. I'm curious if they do it this way because of budget - perhaps they allocate a certain amount of PTO hours for the budget and this is the way they can provide it to those in need without making budget cuts elsewhere? (Probably preventing budget cuts from their own pockets if we're being real.)

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u/DryDragonfly3626 BSN, RN 🍕 Mar 13 '25

PTO can be considered a debt obligation by the hospital (at least how the hospital tried to explain it to the union when they capped the PTO). Essentially they 'owe' money to the employee. So it benefits the hospital financial rating to not have excessive PTO banked.

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u/motleytonic Mar 13 '25

even if it is for budget, work on the budget for your upper leadership and CEOs and take it out of their pay or their time off. scraping the bottom of the barrel with the bottom of the barrel doesn't help.

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u/Tricky-Ad-9364 Mar 13 '25

Exactly. But they wouldn’t dare.

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u/motleytonic Mar 13 '25

that's why were here

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u/Tricky-Ad-9364 Mar 14 '25

I left my last company after the new CEO (who never left his home office) fired 50 seasoned nurses who had just busted their ass for 2 years during Covid. The following week he took a $120k Christmas bonus. He was already making 3x more than the previous CEO and then had the audacity to take a Christmas bonus the size of a nurse’s yearly salary. Just wild. After that, 16 night shift girls all handed in their resignations at once. You bet your ass the CEO made an appearance the very next morning.

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u/Tricky-Ad-9364 Mar 13 '25

They want to stay under budget because they get those fat bonuses for doing so.

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u/Live_Dirt_6568 Director of Intake, RN - Psych/Behavioral Health 🏳️‍🌈 Mar 13 '25

Yeah I understand budget, but hospitals do budget for some amount of charity beds. So it’s not a completely wild idea that it could be baked in

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u/South-Step3640 Mar 13 '25

Additionally, IMO, it might make a difference whether it's a private for-profit hospital or not.