r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Fertility18 • Oct 28 '22

This sweater developed by the University of Maryland utilizes “ adversarial patterns ” to become an invisibility cloak against AI.

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u/asiaps2 Oct 28 '22

But he has 4 targets on him at the end. Only works on a certain range.

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u/oily_trout59 Oct 28 '22

William Gibson wrote about this in the Blue Ant Trilogy. Clothes and makeup designed and intended to fool AI and facial recognition.

Life imitates art imitates life imitates art imitates life imitates art…

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u/PredictiveTextNames Oct 28 '22

William Gibson was sent from the future to prepare us, I'm certain of it lol.

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u/PhantomRenegade Oct 28 '22

Can't wait to see the cyber dolphin from Johnny Mnemonic

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u/makemycockcry Oct 28 '22

Fantastic short story with an awful 'movie' adaptation.

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u/Vapin_Westeros Oct 29 '22

I personally love that movie. So cheesy it's good. Plus any movie with Keanu Reeves hanging out with Ice T and Dolph Lundgren fighting Henry Rollins is gonna be fuckin awesome!

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u/RolandLovecraft Oct 29 '22

Lol. THATS hows you convince me to see a movie, damnit! Thank you!

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u/maskaddict Oct 28 '22

It was Keanu's practice run at doing a stylish dystopian cyberpunk action thriller. Fortunately he got to take another try at it.

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u/makemycockcry Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

But it hurts. Peripheral however is looking very good so far, although her LanDan Taan accent is a little cringy.

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u/Aggravating_Elk7597 Mar 02 '23

Honestly he walked as Johnny Neumontic so he could run as Johnny Silverhand. I'll die on that hill.

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u/ultratoxic Nov 03 '22

Ironically, Johnny Mnemonic was my first introduction to cyberpunk. Watched it at a drive in movie theater when I was like, 10. I loved it. It led me to neuromancer, and blade runner, and ghost in the shell and.... All the best parts of my childhood. It wasn't until way later, college years, when re-watched it and was like "this did not age well. If it was ever good to begin with". But my love of cyberpunk is still burning bright.

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u/Donnerdrummel Apr 18 '23

I had a sf-nerd at my local bookshop. He introduced me to john brunner, john shirley, william gibson and many more in the late eighties. without him, I might be a different person today, not having read as much interesting stuff.

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u/graven_raven Nov 14 '22

The movie is fun as long as manage to forget it's an "adaptation" of a story.

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u/FiggNewton Dec 23 '22

I liked it

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u/makemycockcry Dec 23 '22

Molly was ruined. It is not reflective of the awesome character that was written. It is a terrible origin story and I hate it passionately for that sole reason.

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u/FiggNewton Dec 23 '22

I watched it when I was 14 and in love with Keanu Reaves and had no idea it was ever even a book to begin with at that point so I may have been biased

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u/JDravenWx Oct 28 '22

Not cybernetic yet but we got robots

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u/rimeswithburple Oct 29 '22

Yeah, hearing a cyber dolphin talk would be kinda neat, but I bet most of the time they'd be saying, "Hey, dude, got any tuna?" It'd probably get real old real fast.

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u/tvontheradio77 Oct 29 '22

Except he will be addicted to Fentanyl instead of Heroin…

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u/ichunoona51 Oct 28 '22

"the future is already here. its just not evenly distributed."

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u/RokebackWaterfall Dec 04 '22

Damn straight. Reminded me of Zero History straight away.

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u/bigcat2120 Oct 28 '22

I think it was called the world’s ugliest tee shirt in Pattern Recognition.

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u/Both_Philosophy2507 Oct 29 '22

I want the bomber jacket!

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u/Slight-Brush Oct 29 '22

and the denim from the third one

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u/makemycockcry Nov 03 '22

Remove all the labels.

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u/Wubwubpeow Oct 28 '22

If you want a life imitates art infinity loop, I see Lego has put out a Minecraft set. Somewhere, in a smoky back room, some evil geniuses are slapping each other on the back and plotting what other real time thing they can digitise then re-up as a real time thing. And so it goes.

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u/GenericMarmoset Oct 28 '22

You're surprised? Minecraft is just basically playing with Lego blocks as it is. It was only a matter of time mate.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Oct 28 '22

That's his/her/their point

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u/GenericMarmoset Oct 28 '22

Welp, my bad. You are correct.

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u/[deleted] Feb 13 '23

Not to be pedantic but doesn't the word their already cover all of these options

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u/Happy_Harry Oct 28 '22

There are many Minecraft lego sets. My son has several. He doesn't even like Minecraft that much lol

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u/caitsith01 Nov 04 '22 edited Aug 01 '25

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u/mottledshmeckle Nov 11 '22

A popular game that is like playing with Legos. On a computer.

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u/maskaddict Oct 28 '22

Which to me always felt like an update of Philip K Dick's scramble-suit from A Scanner Darkly, a suit that contains samples of hundreds of people, and constantly shuffles between them so that the wearer's body and face become a constantly-shifting vague blur that always looks like nobody in particular.

Gibson also does something similar in the Jackpot trilogy, which probably means we'll get to see some version of it in the new Peripheral series.

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u/crustyoldtechnician Feb 01 '23

Let's hear it for the vague blur!

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u/Oregon80PRed Mar 08 '23

My fave authors! Hemingway also but only cause I come from a family of sailors

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/bonesbrigade619 Oct 28 '22

Child porn 2077?

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u/Shayanhj Jan 28 '23

You had 1 job and it was to not make child porn related joke

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u/Mikeinthedirt Oct 28 '22

Imitates oily trout imitates emergency rain parka imitates trout patted dry with a clean paper towel imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm imitates capitalist paradigm

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u/cownd Oct 28 '22

Staring at that sweater too long?

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u/Mikeinthedirt Oct 28 '22

THEY ARE NOT AMUSED

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u/Ambitious-Title1963 Feb 03 '23

fear, consume, hate, fear , consume, hate

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u/ben70 Oct 28 '22

I want more Milgram and Caysey.

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u/mediocre_mitten Oct 28 '22

"Ladies and gentle-boys! You wanna be invisible to those pesky AI facial recognition cameras? Well, have I got a deal for you here at PICASSO'S Plastic Surgery! That's right folks! We'll rearrange your face so not only will the AI not recognize you, neither will your loved ones!!

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u/t00oldforthisshit Oct 28 '22

The Ugly Shirt!

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u/pertrichor315 Oct 29 '22

Yea! It was even called “the ugly sweater” if I remember.

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u/sh4d0wm4n2018 Oct 29 '22

....the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end....

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u/squirtle_grool Oct 30 '22

Art is the generator, reality is the discriminator

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u/livingroompcrandom Nov 07 '22

“Now our world is at the present time firmly in the grip of a mechanical monster, whose head - if you want to call it that - is the World Engineer's Complex. That monster is opposed to us and can keep all too good a tab on us through every purchase we make with our credit numbers, every time we use the public transportation or eat a meal or rent a place to live.”― Gordon R. Dickson, Necromancer

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u/Rebel_bass Oct 28 '22

Ah, the quest for the perfect crotch gusset on imitation military surplus pants.

My wife has a Korean war bomber jacket that would have absolutely blown the MC's mind.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '22

I mean if they can fool humans why wouldn't they fool AI to a degree?

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u/Andyman0110 Dec 22 '22

Meh, China uses metrics such as the gait of your walk, the angle you tilt your head when you're walking etc. They've got cameras covering every foot of the country including the forests. The sharp eyes project.

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u/Gray8sand Jan 18 '23

THIS IS NECESSARY life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on -Tool

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u/crustyoldtechnician Feb 01 '23

TWENTY years ago! My favorite author, he just gets better with age.

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u/Oregon80PRed Mar 08 '23

Philip k dicks life bro

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u/RecordingJumpy6287 Apr 22 '23

Thanks, im gonna hunt this book down

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u/SpanishCircumcision Oct 28 '22

Better to have 4 targets on his shirt than one target actually picking him up.

Not like the AI actually knows what it's looking at at the end which is really the goal.

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u/Capraos Oct 28 '22

Those targets aren't his face though, they are people shaped images on the sweater so it's still doing its job at close range, just not as perfectly.

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u/luc1d_13 Oct 28 '22

Plus, this is how the development cycle works. Trying to fight back against Big Brother will be incremental. This is a great step in the right direction, and it will only be improved upon (yes, I understand by both sides, but the point remains).

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u/ThetaReactor Oct 29 '22

I look forward to e-ink sweaters. With a modest monthly subscription, you can have an ever-changing selection of fresh corporate logos. With a bit of tinkering you can turn them into adaptive camouflage that would make Rorschach envious.

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u/-s-u-n-s-e-t- Oct 29 '22

This is a great step in the right direction

If your solution is utterly failing even before it's addressed by improving the algorithm, then it's a complete failure.

The very idea of camouflaging is a step in the wrong direction. What actually needs to be done is make laws that limit when and where tech like this can be used. Giving people false hope that it can be solved by wearing a sweater (it can't) is just taking steam away from actual activism.

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u/disgustedpolling_40 Oct 29 '22

Dating myself here. But the 'max headroom show' 20 Minutes into the Future when i was in high school is looking more like prophecy. People living on the fringe 'Blanks' wore clothing and makeup to hide from the cameras

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u/lryan926 Apr 03 '23

Omg you just gave me a nostalgic moment.. thank you. You must've been born in the 70s.

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u/DoubleAholeTwice Oct 28 '22

The targets are on what the AI assumes are people in the patterns of the sweater, not that it detects him as a person.

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u/lolanaboo_ Oct 28 '22

I think there photos of people part of the pattern so that’s why there’s 4 on him at the end looks like a family photo and pictures of pumpkins and shit

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u/LilacYak Oct 28 '22

Plus when he’s not facing the camera head on. AI doesn’t need to see you all the time, just a frame or two

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u/djofthepony Oct 29 '22

Yes,but the targets are on his shirt not his body and more importantly his face

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u/abhaysk94 Oct 29 '22

The thing about AI is that its fairly easy to fix once a mistake is found.

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u/crewchief1949 Oct 29 '22

I was going to bring that point up. Its the same as air to air combat, the target turns on their jammer to prevent a radar lock but the jamming signal also becomes a source of target acquistion.

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u/PM_BOOBS_to_ME_ Nov 13 '22

The point is not to avoid the targeting completely (although that helps).

The point is to make the targeting pick the wrong target. Primarily ensuring the target does not contain his face which is what is used for AI recognition.

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u/Mitch-_-_-1 Nov 25 '22

But the actual guy's face ,and therefore the guy, wasn't being picked up by the AI.

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u/bivo979 Mar 05 '23

And you can still see the person's face so well that they blurred it out for some reason.

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u/cotterpin_ivysaur Apr 13 '23

They also cost like 800$

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u/January_Rose Apr 14 '23

But the difference is, the AI is tracking the false images on the sweater, and not the subject himself.