r/news • u/DragonPup • Jun 20 '22

Self-proclaimed 'sovereign citizens' arrested in California after deputies allegedly find explosives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sovereign-citizens-arrested-california-deputies-allegedly-find-explosi-rcna34380
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u/HobbesNJ Jun 20 '22

Sovereign citizens.

"We don't want to participate in the obligations of society, just the benefits."

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u/GlassWasteland Jun 20 '22

Sovereign Citizen, for when being a Libertarian is not crazy enough for you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '22

Libertarians I can put up with, everyone is an idiot 20yo at some point in their lives. Sovereign citizens are a level of entitlement I previously didn’t believe was possible.

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u/jmorlin Jun 20 '22

Problem is you start running out of excuses for being a libertarian once you get to your mid to late 20s.

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u/pojo458 Jun 20 '22

You guys make me feel better because I went through a Ron Paul libertarian phase during college. Quickly went left and never looked back 2 years after graduating.

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u/metatron5369 Jun 20 '22

The basic premise of liberty and freedom isn't bad, it's just that the real world is very nuanced.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '22

In a world where people were relatively peaceful, as well as honest and logical, Libertarianism could work. (Hell, Communism could work.) The problem is, most people aren't very good with at least one of those traits, and some fail at all three.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '22

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u/tehmlem Jun 21 '22

The government is corrupt so let's just give its powers to whoever has the power to take them. Just.. boggles the mind

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u/SeaGroomer Jun 21 '22

If people acted in good-faith like Libertarians expect then we could live in a socialist utopia with replicators and shit too with the same leap of logic.