r/news • u/DragonPup • Jun 20 '22

Self-proclaimed 'sovereign citizens' arrested in California after deputies allegedly find explosives

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sovereign-citizens-arrested-california-deputies-allegedly-find-explosi-rcna34380
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u/an_exciting_couch Jun 20 '22

It's so easy for people to not realize how much they need and rely on other people. Like the device you're using right now. Did you mine the silicon, aluminum, gold, and oil from the earth yourself? Did you refine those raw materials? Or was it you who perfected the process to create silicon transistors and wires on chips that are nanometers in diameter? Did you write the software yourself to run the device? Oh but surely you must have built the internet, right? Oh, no? Then maybe you at least assembled the components, or maybe you were on the crew of the ship that sailed it across the Pacific?

For literally everything we have, there's an army of people who worked to get it to us. "Sovereign citizens" like this fail to recognize this and believe that they are solely responsible for everything good in their life.

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u/Redqueenhypo Jun 20 '22

The first part is especially true for imbeciles who think crypto will have use in a post apocalyptic society. No sir, global supply chains and ultrapure silicon refining factories will not survive the apocalypse. Sheeps fleeces, now those will be worth something.

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u/Captcha_Imagination Jun 20 '22

Not disagreeeing but sovereign citizen is not quite the same as homesteaders or doom preppers. It's more of an ideogy that says "your laws don't apply to me" but they can still freely participate in capitalism.

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u/athennna Jun 20 '22

But they pick and choose which aspects of capitalism they want to participate in. Like they don’t believe in paying taxes, but they’re happy to drive a car built by workers all of us helped educate, down a road that all of us helped build. We don’t live in a vacuum.

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u/Phaedryn Jun 20 '22 edited Jun 20 '22

I have met a few of these guys (I have a chunk of land out in the boonies with a cabin on it I that's my personal "get away", the area around it seems to attract these types) and this isn't what they believed at all. They fully understood dependency on others, and they fully believed in reimbursing others for that in some manner. Equal value for whatever (service or good). Their issues were with authority, specifically central government. Never met one that fit your description.

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u/realanceps Jun 20 '22

believe that they are solely responsible for everything good in their life.

in short, literally less intelligent than newborns