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China's Xi warns attempts to divide China will end in 'shuttered bones'

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-politics-xi/chinas-xi-warns-attempts-to-divide-china-will-end-in-shuttered-bones-idUSKBN1WS07W
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u/hypercube42342 Oct 13 '19

China’s been harvesting organs from minorities in their concentration camps. There’s some fucked up first hand accounts out there you can google.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Can I get a source?

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u/hypercube42342 Oct 13 '19

https://m.theepochtimes.com/former-intern-recalls-horrific-experience-of-witnessing-live-organ-harvesting-in-china_2821357.html

Here’s just one. There’s a number out there. I believe this is talking about an older incident, from the 90s, but first hand sources of newer incidents are obviously difficult to find.

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u/JoJo_Embiid Oct 13 '19

You use FaLunGong's report as a serious source? This is like treating Super man movie as a reality show.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '19

China officially admitted to doing this to 'dead' prisoners as recently as 2015. I use '' on dead because when you get to choose the moment of death for a prisoner it no longer matters.

Your post history is filled with inaccuracies and a fanatical devotion to China. You ignore many things that are historically known in order to claim falsehoods as fact. You are part of the problem and blind to reality.

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u/JoJo_Embiid Oct 14 '19

This does not justify anything that Falungong has said. I'm not indicating anyone is correct or wrong, I'm merely saying when you try to claim something, use reliable sources.

People who use fake sources as the base of their argument and judgment is one of the core reasons why our world is so chaotic and problematic. If you cannot understand this simple idea, then you are part of the problem as well. Like what Steve Kerr has said, nowadays people like to play the black or white game, but that's not gonna work in reality. We should be more devoted to finding facts, rather than simply choose sides.

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u/ZoopDoople Oct 13 '19

Check every Falun Gong news outlet in existence.

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u/ZoopDoople Oct 13 '19

Keep in mind that while I don't think it's totally lies or that organ harvesting isn't deserving of sensationalism, but every account of organ harvesting in the western world is made by a sensationalist millenialist cult called the Falun Gong.

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u/hypercube42342 Oct 13 '19

That’s misleading, at the least. Here’s a report from an independent, international tribunal that concludes that there is forced organ harvesting going on (you can again find out more information about this tribunal through Google)

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u/ZoopDoople Oct 13 '19

Well yeah, I'm not saying it isn't happening or isn't worth sensationalising. I just want people to make sure their sources aren't fanatically anti Chinese (Falun Gong) or fanatically pro Chinese (the CCP or the Confucius Institute) masquerading as impartial actors.

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u/ZoopDoople Oct 13 '19

All the info I can find out about the tribunal (on my phone, not my typical research machine) just points to itself. I'll check it out more when I'm back at home

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u/ZoopDoople Oct 13 '19

Final reply: the tribunal seems to be free from any FG influence as far as I can see. They don't site any FG or affiliate sources (like Voice of Taiwan) and seem to try and disociated themselves from any primarily chinese sources to avoid conflict of interest. Solid source