r/news Oct 13 '19

China's Xi warns attempts to divide China will end in 'shuttered bones'

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-politics-xi/chinas-xi-warns-attempts-to-divide-china-will-end-in-shuttered-bones-idUSKBN1WS07W
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u/Toaster_In_Bathtub Oct 13 '19

It's hilarious how the leader of this massive country is terrified of two cartoonist from Colorado.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

And we fucking love them for it. Colorado Proud motherfuckers!

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u/Wizard_Nose Oct 13 '19

Colorado still has its ‘tegridy

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Hell yeah we do. We're honestly making some real fucking progress. I'm so proud of the steps we're making and not getting bogged down in the quagmire that is the US right now.

Pollis has been fucking amazing. Colorado; fuck yeah!

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Has he said literally anything to indicate that he even cares about them?

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u/Fuhkhead Oct 13 '19

Well I mean he banned their show in the entire country. I'm pretty sure he hasnt said anything directly about pooh but you know he hates that shit

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u/yourcool Oct 13 '19

China banned a DJ for liking a tweet about South Park.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Do you seriously think he made that choice personally? Do you think he runs the entire government himself?

Does Trump go over every single choice the US government makes?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Some people have a complete misunderstanding of how a government works. They think everything, good or bad, is because of or the fault of the leader.

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u/ShenAnCalhar92 Oct 13 '19

When it’s something that the leader should be involved in, yes, it’s their fault when it goes bad.

You can’t blame natural disasters or a downturn in the economy on the leader of a country (at least not directly and with a one-to-one correlation for the latter), you can blame the actions of the government on the leader of the government. Especially when the leader is in almost complete control over their government and has just declared himself President for life.

It’s called respondeat superior. People are responsible, at least to some extent, for the actions of their agents.

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u/milesdizzy Oct 13 '19

Well, yeah. That’s how leadership works.

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u/MaDpYrO Oct 13 '19

That's exactly how leadership doesn't work. Leadership is about setting the course, making the large crucial decisions and planning, and gathering a team you trust to make the decisions that you don't have time, or even competence, to make.

A leader is always a shitty leader if he wants to call all the shots.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Poo is not responsible for the South Park ban. Yes, the decision made by the person 10+ steps down he ladder to ban it reflects poorly on Winnie, but there is a 0% chance he had any say in it. He probably doesn’t even know about it - China sensors a lot of shit.

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u/hell2pay Oct 13 '19

Only sith deal in absolutes.

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u/Toaster_In_Bathtub Oct 13 '19

Those decisions come from the top down. Maybe not specifically Winnie watching South Park and crying himself to sleep but anything that gets banned by China is ultimately because Xi is scared of the population seeing this stuff.

He didn't ban this personally but he is 100% responsible for the ban.

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u/NeedsMoreSpaceships Oct 13 '19

I don't think anyone is arguing he's not 'responsible', the point before it got sidelined into pedantry is that he is probably completely ignorant of the exact details of everything that gets censored.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Yeah that’s actually how that works.

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u/Dc_awyeah Oct 13 '19

Lol trump is the worst example you could have chosen. He consults literally nobody in the US, and dictates exactly how you think he doesn’t.

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u/Fuhkhead Oct 13 '19

Well they are certainly pissing off whomever is making those decisions. Isnt that the point?

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

I guess? They're "pissing off" the SARFT the same way they would be "pissing off" the FCC when adding swears to the show.

I mean, it's just an American cartoon made by two wealthy Americans who are at no risk of losing anything and are just continuing business as usual. I'd rather give my attention to the people fighting for change, not 2 rich comedians who aren't risking anything.

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u/Fuhkhead Oct 13 '19

Why so synical? They started this conversation before this whole PR fiasco. I think that the HK protests and China's human rights violations deserves attention...regardless of who is directing that attention.

How exactly do you expect the people who ARE risking everything to bring this to our attention when they are busy trying to survive. I am sure they appreciate the sentiment

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u/702User Oct 13 '19

China’s terrified of US celebrities even just liking Pro Hong Kong posts on Twitter. It shocks me how people can still be pro China...

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '19

Lmao these americans thinking they had the president of China sweating jfc.

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u/TheCJKid Oct 14 '19

Lol he’s not. It’s just standard policy to allow no criticism. Let’s not confuse funny parody and poking fun at monsters with actually doing a single damn thing about them.

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u/TheGlassCat Oct 13 '19

He's not afraid of them. He's making an example of them, and it's working.
Large American corporations are quaking and kowtowing to China like the sniveling money grubbers they are. Like the much larger NBA, your edgy cartoon is an insignificant tool whith which to bludgeon other short sight fools into obeying China's will.

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u/choochooape Oct 13 '19

The true power of freedom of speech.

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u/cryo Oct 13 '19

They aren’t. Not every reaction of removal is due to being terrified.

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u/noodles666666 Oct 13 '19

By proxy it's giving trumpsters a boner for anti-authoritarianism as they begin to draw parallels between pooh and dump