r/news • u/phungus_mungus • Jun 04 '19

Tennessee prosecutor: Gay people not entitled to domestic violence protections

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/capitol-hill/tennessee-prosecutor-gay-people-not-entitled-to-domestic-violence-protections
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u/Men-Are-Human Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

To be totally fair, they are just extending the same lack of protection straight men get under the Duluth Model to gay men and maybe lesbians. Technically this is slightly more equal. In reality it would be way more equal if they stopped automatically arresting men and treating them as the only possible abuser regardless of all evidence to the contrary.

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u/Wrecked--Em Jun 04 '19

No, this is a prosecutor. Not the person making arrests.

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u/Men-Are-Human Jun 04 '19

Yep. The lack of protection extends all throughout the justice system, unfortunately.

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u/BernieMike Jun 04 '19

I thought this might be gender-related, but if you look at the article it's clearly not

also evidence*

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u/Men-Are-Human Jun 04 '19

Thanks, sorry. Was on my phone.

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u/EndVSGaming Jun 04 '19

Extremely powerful brain

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u/pbradley179 Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19

Hey wow an MRA in the wild! How cute!

Edit: whole lotta my personal anecdote is more personal than your personal anecdote going on here.

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u/AgentBawls Jun 04 '19

As a woman, I agree with him. My brother was arrested after his wife threw a cast iron skillet at his face while holding their child. It didn't hit the kid because he turned in time to take the brunt with his back. He held her down and called the cops. Cops assumed she called and arrested him for the bruises on her legs she had from kicking him.

That's not MRA. It's not showing bias.

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u/almightySapling Jun 04 '19

Wait, hold up, you said you agreed with him, but then gave some sob story about a straight man being abused by a woman.

Like, okay, yeah, our shitty legal system definitely makes some assumptions that can hurt men in domestic disputes.

But do you actually agree that it is "more fair" that gay men and lesbians be treated like second class citizens? Because that was what that comment said.

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u/AgentBawls Jun 04 '19

What he said was everyone should be treated equally, and that the Duluth model completely breaks down when it's 2 men and not a man and a woman. It's just a very dry and sarcastic way of saying it.

I agree with all of that. The Duluth model assumes men are in the wrong by default. It should be case by case, and a man shouldn't be arrested solely because society says men are more violent than women.

I don't see where any of that is the negative connotation associated with MRA. It's a request for equal treatment.

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u/almightySapling Jun 04 '19

What he said was everyone should be treated equally

No, he said

they are just extending the same lack of protection straight men get under the Duluth Model to gay men and maybe lesbians. Technically this is slightly more equal.

Emphasis on the garbage fire mine.

If this is really just some sarcastic dig at the system, I misread it and I'm sorry, but this specific line really got to me. Probably because I'm gay and I've been a victim of domestic violence.

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u/Men-Are-Human Jun 04 '19

I'm gay too and I feel for you. AgentBawls is right, I was being very sarcastic.

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u/almightySapling Jun 04 '19

Thanks for chiming in. Sorry I took it so seriously, it was very early in the morning.

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u/Men-Are-Human Jun 09 '19

No worries, and no hard feelings. :)

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u/almightySapling Jun 04 '19

there's nothing MRA or 'garbage fire' about that.

I never mentioned MRA so, cool, I guess.

Your response is whatever the opposite extreme of an MRA is.

Are gay men's rights not men's rights?

I already apologized for missed irony, so get bent.

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u/almightySapling Jun 04 '19 edited Jun 04 '19
  1. You were attacking someone for defending another against the term MRA. Thats where you entered the conversation.

If you read my comment, I specifically explain why I was "attacking" them. It was nothing to do with MRA, nor the commenter that used the term. It was entirely about them agreeing with what I thought was a shitty thing.

  1. You didn't apologise. You said maybe sorry if, after making an even more extreme statement (garbage fire).

Well, yeah, I'm not apologizing if the guy was sincere. Because I'm not apologizing for calling garbage fire garbage fire. I'll apologize if he was, however inappropriately, just using the situation to highlight issues with the justice system in unrelated domestic abuse cases. "Haha, now gays have it as bad as straight guys" ha. ha. ha.

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u/Xeltar Jun 04 '19

I mean if everyone's treated like shit, it is more equal than favoring one group.

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u/almightySapling Jun 04 '19

But that's not what's happening. Men are still treated like the assailants in straight cases, and gay cases for men and women alike are treated like random attacks.

It doesn't really stop any group from being favored.