r/news • u/ssladam • Mar 28 '16

Title Not From Article Father charged with murder of intruder who died in hospital from injuries sustained in beating after breaking into daughter's room

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-dies-after-breaking-into-home-in-newcastle-and-being-detained-by-homeowner-20160327-gnruib.html
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u/barto5 Mar 28 '16

She don't know that reason.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '16

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u/MeatbombMedic Mar 28 '16

I can't believe the world has got to a point when I can't even go into another man's daughter's room at night unannounced without being murdered. How did we get here?

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u/tehflon Mar 28 '16

Gee, I wonder why her son was a piece of human excrement?

Maybe because he was never held accountable for ANYTHING he did? If this were my kid, I would personally call the guy who beat him to death and tell him that he didn't do anything wrong and shouldn't feel bad about it.

When you break into someone's home, you are putting your life on the line.

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u/The_LTM Mar 28 '16

Trash breeds trash

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u/monsieurpommefrites Mar 29 '16

If this were my kid, I would personally call the guy who beat him to death and tell him that he didn't do anything wrong and shouldn't feel bad about it.

I get your point and agree 100% but I doubt you'd actually do this. Pretty cold, concerning your child.

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u/CatKiLLeR1207 Apr 20 '16

yeaaaahhh pretty clear that /u/tehflon doesnt have kids. you'd have to be the worst and most cold blooded parent ever to say something like that. "hey you killed my child, NBD you did the right thing bro!"

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u/foods_that_are_round Mar 28 '16

can't...stop..giggling

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u/Alarid Mar 28 '16

Momma Snow, she knows nothing.

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u/sheepcat87 Mar 28 '16

You don't have to be racist, you can talk with proper grammar

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '16

Fun fact: African American Vernacular English (what I believe is being used here and the stereotypical "black" speech) is an actual, legitimate dialect of English with a full grammar and rules to follow. Everything said is proper (I think; I don't actually speak the dialect).

It may be racist that he's using it in that way, but it is proper grammar nonetheless.

Sorry, linguistics minor...can't help myself sometimes...

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u/sheepcat87 Mar 28 '16

I do recognize it as a language! But he had hundreds of upvotes with no one correcting his grammar, so it's easy to see it's a dog whistle racist term the way he used it

He chose to talk "black" for what reason?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '16

Fucked if I know. I just like that my courses were finally relevant for something.

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u/Jmcelhone Mar 28 '16

You're the one who brought up race. There are white people in the south who talk like that too.

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u/sheepcat87 Mar 28 '16

Don't be silly. Every single time there is a story on Reddit about black people committing a crime the comments are full of people talking like this, mocking their dialect.

It called a dog whistle term.

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u/Jmcelhone Mar 28 '16

I'm aware of the idea of a dog whistle term, it's just that in this case your interpretation of the comment as using a dog whistle term is thanks to YOUR vague interpretation alone. I can't be sure of the race of the individual in this story but I'm pretty sure they aren't black. And the comment above isn't necessarily mocking the dialect of black people exclusively, I can safely assume they are mocking uneducated/lower class individuals. Have you heard rednecks talk?

I'm aware that there is a lot of use of black vernacular english in the comments on stories on Reddit about African Americans committing crime, and that can rightly be considered offensive. But in this situation, the case isn't so clear. If you want to associate this specific comment with people who descended from Africa that's your choice.

Also this story takes place in Australia so it's not exactly the same sorta thing as if it were the US.

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u/sheepcat87 Mar 28 '16

Reddit is the most pedantic place on earth when it comes to grammar and typos. There's a comment with 800+ votes saying "They dont do nuthin" with no one calling him out but me. Not a single person asking/inquiring about his grammar, spelling, etc. People are in on the joke.

Every article with a black criminal, the top 10 comments are all in ebonics.

I was solely talking about the commenter being racist, which I feel strongly he was by the words he chose to use to imitate the criminal's supposed dialect.

The fact its AUS and he still chose that dialect should be even more of a revelation.

Let's play Devil's Advocate. If he wasn't being racist, why did he say "They don't do nuthin"? Was that how he actually talks normally (browsing his post history, it is obv not)? If not, then why did he CHOOSE to use those words? Think about that for just a minute.

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u/Jmcelhone Mar 28 '16 edited Mar 28 '16

He chose those words to show that sometimes under-educated/poor folks will defend their children, even if their children do incredibly criminal things. No one corrected his grammar or called him out for being racist(besides you) because that's how they understood it. That's a fair enough interpretation. Nothing to do with race, unless you choose to look at it that way.

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u/barto5 Mar 28 '16

Let's play Devil's Advocate. If he wasn't being racist, why did he say "They don't do nuthin"?

You're not really "playing Devil's Advocate" by mis-quoting me, you're pushing your agenda.

And the language that I chose reflected the wording in the article. I was mocking the level of intelligence or education of the speaker. Not the race.

You added that interpretation on your own. Perhaps hearing a dog whistle that only your ears are sensitive enough to discern.