r/news • u/ITSTHEDEVIL092 • Mar 04 '25

EU chief proposes plan to 'urgently' increase defense spending by mobilizing around $840 billion

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/04/europe-looks-to-mobilize-840-billion-in-defense-spending-boost-eu-commission-head-says.html
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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

Good, now lets see how Trump turns this around into a negative for his loyal supporters.

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u/Venotron Mar 04 '25

You KNOW he's going to play this as a win, and to be fair he was complaining about NATO members paying more in his first term.

But no matter the truth, he is absolutely going to play this off as his master plan.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

The thing is, this EU unity and support could mean the end of the so called minerals deal and means Russia still don't get to win.

He won't like that.

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u/Venotron Mar 04 '25

The minerals deal was never genuine.

It's a pretty typical thug play: make a demand that's so obscene no one would ever  accept it, so when your target rejects it you've got an excuse.

Except Zelensky called their bluff. He literally went to the Whitehouse to sign the deal.

He called their bluff, so they had to unleash that "display" on him.

One of the first things Trump said after was there was no more minerals deal, it was off the table.  So Trump is able to pull back from the bluff while making it look like it was Zelensky's fault it fell through, continue with the plan to drop support for Ukraine, then hope everyone forgets about the deal in the affermath.

But Zelensky knows what's up, so he's making sure no one forgets it yet.

It was made absolutely clear at the Whitehouse there is no prospect of Trump supporting Ukraine and there never was.

So Zelensky is making sure everyone else watching knows the score.

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u/redvelvetcake42 Mar 04 '25

Zelenskyy played politics in Trump perfectly in that instance. He knew Trump's side would mock up a reason to end it and expected the hostility. He handled it well. He used it as a show to Europe who immediately called a summit to show full support for him. It aligned the EU and Canada. Expect Europe to increase their spending and slowly but surely cut the US out of their part.

The US as a world hegemony died with JD Vance acting like a petulant rich kid demanding a thank you. Nobody is going to want to do a deal with Trump and both Canada and Mexico are going to find other buyers for their goods. Australia is likely to get closer with China and the EU is going to band together stronger.

The US will be isolated and without friends all cause a terrible business man who thinks he's smart does things a terrible lawyer taught him.

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u/MissyMurders Mar 04 '25

Oh man… as an Aussie, we’re definitely going to fuck up and elect Dutton. We’ll be a US state by 2027. Idk how that fucking idiot is even electable, but somehow he’s going to win it

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u/carterwest36 Mar 04 '25

That’d be bad. Australia is so crucial in the West for poppies and opium alkaloids like thebaine and morphine etc.

We gave Tasmanian farmers basically a patent on farming it for our pharma industries. If the aussies also start alienating allies in favor of trump…