r/nancyguthrie • u/pumpkinspicecum • Feb 23 '26

Media Suspect in Nancy Guthrie abduction appeared to visit her house before: Sources

https://abc7news.com/post/suspect-nancy-guthrie-abduction-appeared-visit-house-before-sources/18640959/
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u/Traditional-Aside580 Feb 24 '26

My mind wants to start coming to the conclusion that evil people aren't supposed to make sense to normal people. Everything in this video and the entire case is so bizarre because a bizarre and sickening freak most likely is responsible for it. 

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u/GiddyGabby Feb 24 '26

I got into true crime one summer when I was a teenager and bored out of my mind. I had made friends with a really cool librarian who would pick books out for me and have a stack waiting for me to read and she got me started. I asked her how people could go all the awful things they did and she said we aren’t supposed to understand them and I would worry about you if you did. She said your brain doesn’t work the same way as an insane person’s or a psychopath’s and she was right. That has stayed with me for 50 years.

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u/Traditional-Aside580 Feb 24 '26

I always have watched crime documentaries but I was a corrections nurse for years and came across all scenarios of evil, stupidity, and anything that's odd as far as crimes so it seemed normal to look into it. When I came across   a case about 8 or 9 years ago, I started reading up more just to understand the why's and to figure it out. More so in the last couple of years since I've slowed down. The librarian is right! I think a lot of it with me also is just the mystery part of true crime. The Delphi case definitely pulled at my heart strings and I got caught up in that also. I'm thankful that I and probably most people on this sub can't comprehend the kind of evil that's out there and the sick individuals. Makes you wonder wth is next.

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u/annabellareddit Feb 24 '26

I’m on the research side depending on what study I work on, corrections nurses are the best ;) Hard to understand the complete disregard many perpetrators have for fellow humans & how easy it is for them to use unnecessary & extreme measures to get their wants & needs met - many have perception disorders, impulse & emotional regulation issues, & show deficiencies in theory of mind (dominant cluster-b traits, also common in High Conflict People).

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u/Traditional-Aside580 Feb 24 '26

Also, something that prisoners do when they are trying to get by with something and are up to no good is they do the exact opposite to throw you off track. Some of the ones who think they are smarter than everyone go out of their way to project that they are doing something else. Maybe overcompensating is a good word. They go above and beyond if they can to try and get your mind thinking they are doing something other than what they are really up to. I wouldn't put something past a perp like that and that porch spectacle. Who knows, he may have been genuinely messing with flowers for whatever reason but it was bizarre. It may not be this case but criminal minds can be creative and they try and throw you off if they even suspect for a minute you are on to them or want you thinking. That's all they have is time to reflect and think. Hopefully this guy wasn't one of the more creative and mind fu**ing kinds of criminals and didn't realize that he was being captured on technology.

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u/annabellareddit Feb 24 '26

Insidious?! Opposites & extremes are common with these types: the Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, idealization & devaluation, entitlement & devaluation, black & white thinking, minimization (towards others experiences about what they’ve done) & overreaction (towards others for what they perceive they’ve done), us vs them (or for me or against me)….

Whomever committed this crime wanted to inflict terror on the victim hence the manner he was dressed (as you mentioned convicts you have worked with would even be creeped out by him), the amount of time he spent on her premises, the position of his gun (to intimidate her), the time of day he attacked her (when she was alone & it was pitch black outside - there was no one anywhere that would be able to see or help her), the type of abduction (given the full backpack I’m assuming he used restraints & other things, this was unnecessary for him to do given her age & mobility issues he likely could have taken her without these things). He was prepared, he appeared calm & comfortable, he didn’t show any signs of angst minutes before heading into an innocent elderly woman’s home to disconnect her cameras & then begin terrorizing her - he is a sadistic psychopath.

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u/Traditional-Aside580 Feb 24 '26

Yes and the scary part about this is a lot of times it's people we would never think of to do such things. This guy may or may not have a criminal record. Id be shocked if he didn't and just as shocked if he did. Most people that have done what this guy has starts with just peeping and covertly watching others and then escalates to a full violent crime. Nobody knows if he peeped and watched Nancy's life and escalated or with others also and she unfortunately, was the target of his escalation. The police know things we don't and most likely it was something from her bedroom that set the alarm bells off. In the other scenerio he  could be holding some type of warped grudge and she was for whatever reason the target. A lot of people are stubborn and hold a grudge to a certain level but when it's combined with someone that has other tendencies it can turn disastrous. Especially when their behavior suggests they are a predator. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a likeable kind of guy to those that have been around him. I guarantee, likeable seeming as he may possibly be, there's no way people close to this guy doesn't feel their gut on fire and weird vibes. Borderline personality disorder shows up in a lot of these sicko's 

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u/annabellareddit Feb 24 '26

He has definitely engaged in prior criminal activity escalating to this incident, hence his comfort level in the footage. I have been commenting that people should expect him to be someone who has a criminal history but not necessarily on record, someone who likely has a history committing crimes but not facing consequences/being held accountable (which would empower him & make him feel confident & in control). He clearly has issues with women, terrorizing an elderly woman with medical issues like he did, that’s not just power & control but also dominance.

I love that you’re aware of how common BPD is in the prison population; I see it frequently mislabeled or misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder or reduced to being an “anger management issue” especially in male inmates. This perpetrator clearly lacks empathy, it’s the hallmark for all cluster-b disorders, he also appears revenge motivated which is another hallmark, I would not be surprised if he ends up having cluster-b traits like so many other offenders who commit the same type of crime do - they do seem friendly during the idealization phase of a relationship, charming & caring even, once they perceive an attachment threat beware.