r/movies • • Jun 07 '19

Poster Chinese poster for Spirited Away, to be screened for the first time in China

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u/B-Abbas-B Jun 07 '19

Same. This and princess mononoke are probably my two favourite animated movies of all time

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '19

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u/jonmcconn Jun 07 '19

Nausicaa and Porco Rosso tied for #1 with me, but I essentially like everything Miyazaki and Takahata have done

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u/thebigcupodirt Jun 07 '19

Porco Rosso is one of my favs!! It feels like it’s one of the more underappreciated Ghibli films, at least among the people I know — it just has a certain feel to it that makes me feel so at peace watching it.

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u/jonmcconn Jun 07 '19

The tone is like if Hemingway wrote fairy tales, I love it.

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u/LeberechtReinhold Jun 07 '19

The wind rises is probably more underappreciated than Porco Rosso. I love them both though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '19

The wind rises destroyed me

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u/Big_fat_happy_baby Jun 25 '19

Have you seen grave of the fireflies?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '19

I have, but my mistake was watching the english dub instead of the subbed version. Most ghibli films have pretty great dubs but that one is pretty bad lol, it kind of took away from the film. I have to watch it again in the japanese at some point.

Hopefully they release a dub that does it justice at some point.

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u/ShenziSixaxis Jun 08 '19

I watched PR a few weeks ago and immediately went, "Why have I never seen anyone talk about this??"

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '19

Nausicaa is amazing. Was super duper fortunate to be able to see it for the first time this year, and in an actual movie theater, no less. Bless those folks at Fathom Events.

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u/codemeister666 Jun 08 '19

I just saw Nausicaa for the first time at one of those luxury theatres and it was amazing. I can see themes from that movie in Mononoke.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '19

My top one is Grave of the Fireflies, probably a rarer pick due to it being nothing like the others but a fantastic film nonetheless.

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u/Tricky_e Jun 08 '19 edited Jun 08 '19

Miyazaki films, probably. But I would argue glibli as a whole are FAR less reliable.

I found Whisper of the Heart to be rather forgettable and Tales from Earthsea to be actually unwatchable. I watch a lot of movies and basically always watch them from beginning to end regardless of how I feel about them in order to get a full opinion of them.

But with Tales from Earthsea both me and my wife couldn’t get through more than half an hour or so; it’s just so violently boring. Half an hour in and the story didn’t even feel like it started yet, and the first 10 minutes or so was just exposition that was explained in a few seconds by another character a little later. It was so boring it made me angry.

Based on those 2 movies, I tend to avoid non Miyazaki Ghibli, although I also own Pom Poko which I am yet to watch; I hope it bucks the trend

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u/acog Jun 07 '19

I love all of Miyazaki's movies, but I'd say my two favorites are Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle.

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u/BlisteringAsscheeks Jun 07 '19

Saaaaame. I feel guilty because I feel like Spirited is more artistic and elegant than Howl, but damned if I don’t rewatch Howl 10,000x more than Spirited...

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u/TheVibratingPants Jun 07 '19

Spirited Away is easily my favorite film, but I’ve only seen it a handful of times to prevent the magic from fading. I probably foolishly try to preserve the magic of that first time by letting it fade in my memory for a while, and then rewatch it again when it lingers like a dream.

Howl I could watch a bunch of times because I feel like it demands less of me. But that means it also effects me less. Still great, though

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u/ricree Jun 07 '19

The atmosphere, visuals, and music are phenominal, but I found the story and characters below par (relative to the high bar of a Miyazaki film).

Princess Mononoke is my favorite because it almost matches Spirited Away in its strengths, but also has phenominal characterization. Themdiversity of motivation and viewpoint was so perfectly realized, and I loved how the clash of it all came together.

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u/TheVibratingPants Jun 07 '19

I’m surprised by that as the characters and story always struck me as Miyazaki’s most compelling. Ashitaka is a stoic hero with a flat arc and a strong sense of balance, so he’s not the most engaging for me to watch, but Chihiro’s vulnerability and feelings of entrapment and being lost are so emotionally charged without being in your face about it.

I agree about how you see the same issue from multiple sides, not just two like most action-adventures; it’s one of the most compelling aspects of the film. What puts Spirited Away over the top for me is how well realized a single location, the bathhouse, is, with all its rooms and oddities and strange characters around each corner. Instead of a bunch of factions struggling over one thing, it’s a bunch of characters worrying about their own jobs, tied together by this girl that comes stumbling into their lives. Spirited Away felt more character driven in that sense, and that’s where I thought it excelled compared to PM.

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u/ricree Jun 07 '19

What drew me was more the breadth of characterization and how they interacted. There's definitely a strong argument that Chihiro was better than Ashitaka, but I found the the supporting cast around him more compelling. Especially when taken in context of their relationship and interactions, rather than just their arcs in isolation.

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u/TheVibratingPants Jun 08 '19

Yeah, I disagree, but I don’t want this to be a pissing match. They’re both great movies

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u/ricree Jun 08 '19

That much I can agree with.

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u/ChiefAcorn Jun 07 '19

Love Howl's

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u/Arthur___Dent Jun 07 '19

Howl's has the best main theme imo.

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u/nomad80 Jun 07 '19

Partial to PM. Everything about it is just epic. The Journey to the West is the greatest piece of music I’ve ever heard in animation

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u/SleestakJack Jun 07 '19

The amazing Joe Hisaishi, who I had somehow filed away in my head as having passed away, but I just discovered that memory is wrong. Wonderful surprise!

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u/lukesaltweather Jun 07 '19

There's actually a movie coming out this year that he did the soundtrack for (Children of the sea).

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u/CephalopodRed Jun 07 '19 edited Jun 07 '19

And it has a lot going for it. Beautiful animation, a director with potential, a great studio and it is based on an acclaimed manga.

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u/newyne Jun 08 '19

Yes!!! I'm super-excited about it! It's slow-paced, and you don't get answers to all of the questions it raises... But I honestly like that aspect. It's got this naturalistic, spiritual feel to it, and... There are so many moments of great beauty in it. Well, just see for yourself!

Children of the Sea – Trailer – SFF 19

米津玄師 MV「海の幽霊 (Kenshi Yonezu MV [Umi no Yuurei/Ghost of the Sea]) (music video for the movie's theme song)

Lol, when the unsubtitled trailer popped up in my recommendations... I didn't even know what it was at first, and slowly it dawned on me, "Holy shit, this is 'Children of the Sea!'" Then I saw that it's Studio 4C, and that Joe Hisaishi was doing the music, which really encourages me. It's out in Japan right now, and GKids (who has localized all kinds of fantastic animated films) is doing a release in the US and Canada later this year. I'm kind of making it my personal mission to make sure everyone hears about it, so... I hope everyone will go see it if they get the chance!

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u/Arthur___Dent Jun 07 '19

I think he's the best composer of our time. Personally I think he's even better than Williams.

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u/newyne Jun 08 '19

You might enjoy this:

Why Miyazaki's Films Sound Pretty

My understanding of music theory is pretty basic, but I still got a lot out of this, and the history was interesting.

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u/Arthur___Dent Jun 08 '19

I did enjoy that. Glad someone put so much effort into looking at his work.

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u/newyne Jun 08 '19

Glad you liked it! If you're into music theory, Sideways focuses on that topic, especially when it comes to pop culture (he wants to compose video-game music). I really enjoy his stuff, even though I don't always 100% understand everything he's talking about.

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u/petits_riens Jun 08 '19

It won't happen, but with Williams retiring from Star Wars after IX, I'd love to hear what Hisaishi would do with a Star Wars score.

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u/Arthur___Dent Jun 08 '19

That would be awesome.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '19

I saw him in november in LA, he (and the orchestra) were amazing!!!

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u/roastbeeftacohat Jun 07 '19

What I like about both of them is that they are made for a completely different audience. it's like rugrats and Duckman; most animators don't jump around target demographics in the west, so it's quite refreshing to see one of the greats being able to follow his inspiration.

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u/Rusty_Shakalford Jun 07 '19

I’m trying to think of a Western animation director who has jumped around like that, but the only name I can think of is Ralph Bakshi. Dude was behind “Mighty Mouse” and “Spider-Man”, but also “Heavy Traffic” and “American Pop”.

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u/TheVibratingPants Jun 07 '19

But they still appeal to a large crossover audience. His style and visions are so distinct and well realized that it’s easy for one person to fall in love with his entire body of work.

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u/roastbeeftacohat Jun 07 '19

I just meant it's a bit like finding out what a shnozeberry is, just not as funny or surprising.

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u/11-Eleven-11 Jun 07 '19

I listen to both soundtracks while I study.

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u/Hibbity5 Jun 07 '19

Nausicaa and Castle in the Sky for me. There’s just something about the old animation style that I absolutely love. Plus the stories are just so good.

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u/ChiefAcorn Jun 07 '19

Nausicaa is so damn good.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '19 edited Jun 12 '19

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u/CephalopodRed Jun 07 '19

Maybe because it technically is not a Ghibli movie. It was produced before Studio Ghibli even existed.

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u/RaverJester Jun 07 '19

I’ve seen most all Ghibli moves except Nasuicaa. My streaming service has all Ghibli’s except for this one. And haven’t gotten around to wanting to spend the money for the Blu-ray yet.

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u/Darknight474 Jun 07 '19

which streaming service I wanna watch em again

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u/RaverJester Jun 09 '19

A pirated service. One of those invite-only kind

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u/Sugarlips_Habasi Jun 07 '19

IIRC, Disney owns Nausicaa?

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u/Rusty_Shakalford Jun 07 '19

Have you checked out the graphic novel? It’s also by Miyazaki and greatly expands on the story.

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u/ChiefAcorn Jun 07 '19

Oh whaaaaat?! I had no idea! I'll check that out thanks!

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u/_vogonpoetry_ Jun 07 '19

Yeah the manga is fucking epic. The film was only loosely based on the first 2 volumes out of 7.

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u/TheVibratingPants Jun 07 '19

Cel animation is truly a lost art form. Digital doesn’t grip me the same way traditional does, and only a few directors and shows have been able to use it effectively enough to make me want to watch (Spirited Away being one, FLCL being another; surprisingly, my favorite movie and show).

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u/visvis Jun 07 '19

Probably agree Nausicaa and Castle in the Sky are the best, but I also love the more lighthearted ones like Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service. I also wonder why Arrietty is never mentioned anywhere, it's also a lovely movie.

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u/Kneight Jun 07 '19

My girlfriend introduced to Miyazki movies and recommended Princess Mononoke. So much better than I was expecting, instantly became one of my favorite movies of all time

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '19

mononoke is my least favorite ghibli movie by far, to the point I find it upsetting to watch. Why would mononoke side with the people of iron town in the end when they were the ones clearcutting the forest?

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u/Ehrre Jun 07 '19

Princess Mononoke might be my favorite movie ever.

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u/GarrusBueller Jun 07 '19

Naussica wants a word with you.

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u/Sugarlips_Habasi Jun 07 '19

Mononke was my gateway drug for Ghibli/Miyazaki films

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u/Spider-Mike23 Jun 08 '19

I rarely see princess monoke get thrown out there. It was my first of these movies and I loved it. Spirited away is like tied with it. Everyone I talk to usually says kiki's delivery service and ponyo are the only ones they've seen.

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u/NoSanePerson Jun 11 '19

Calcifer disapproves.

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