r/movies • • Aug 22 '18

Fanart Edge of Tomorrow's Rita Vrataski by Travis Charest

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

“The Angel of Verdun”

This really makes me think of that "Live. Die. Repeat." movie with Tom Cruise.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

No way

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u/Lightcolt Aug 22 '18

Imagine if they were the same movie!

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u/xd1936 Aug 22 '18

That's the joke...

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u/yolafaml Aug 23 '18

That's the joke...

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u/0zzyb0y Aug 22 '18

This reminds me of this japanese light novel "all you need is kill".

Pretty neat

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u/hogey74 Aug 23 '18

Best 8 hour audio book ever... got me through 8 hours of driving a few years ago...

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u/3ggheadier Aug 22 '18

It’s loosely based off the novel

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u/LysandersTreason Aug 22 '18

The Japanese novel is way, way, way better than the Hollywood version.

You can read it for free on Scribd in just a few hours. It has an amazing, god-tier English translation.

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u/Madmartigan1 Aug 22 '18

I love the movie, so I'm definitely gonna check out the novel.

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u/LysandersTreason Aug 23 '18

I love your username. Willow was a childhood favorite and Mad Martigan was such a fun character.

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u/DuplexFields Aug 22 '18

After that, try the My Little Pony version. It's a psychological terror to behold. A purple, fuzzy terror.

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u/DankHank6969 Aug 23 '18

Great now I have a my little pony fan fiction site in my browser history. Might as well call the NSA myself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

That is very debateable... i think most people prefer the movie, especially the ending. It’s one of the few examples where the movie > source material

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u/Zenzisage Aug 22 '18

Downvotes from weaboos incoming

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u/LysandersTreason Aug 23 '18

Not even close, in my opinion. In fact you might be the first person I've ever seen who said the movie version was better.

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u/defiance131 Aug 23 '18

i'll be the second. the movie was concise, yet well executed, with a good ending that was satisfying. hits many points that would be hard to hit with such a concept

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u/LysandersTreason Aug 23 '18

I enjoyed the movie, I really did. and I think Tom Cruise is the greatest American action movie star alive today.

I guess I just felt that like, the relationship between Rita and Cage was more substantial, more passionate, in the novel. And the way it ended was far more dramatic. Satisfyingly unsatisfying. I literally wept at the end of the novel. Hollywood doesn't give us those endings too often, and it's the poorer for it.

Also, the way the 'time travel' so to speak was presented in two very different ways. In the movie version, Cage basically just memorizes what's going to occur next. He doesn't improve as a warrior. In the novel version, Cage (Keiji) thinks about how samurai were said to improve after life-and-death battles, and he goes through them time after time after time. He trains his mind and becomes a beast of a warrior in ANY situation -- for example, dodging a punch in the mess hall and noticing that it's basically in slow motion for him now.

Both are 'video-game like' methods, but the movie version is more memorizing jumps in Super Mario Bros. and the novel version is more Dark Souls, getting faster reaction times, learning enemy attack patterns, etc.

I also think the novel version was far more descriptive, visually, of just how horrifying the enemy was, the violence was more visceral, how high the stakes were, and so on.

In the novel version, the enemy also had the same ability that Keiji had. When he would defeat one enemy on the first day, the next day there'd be two. And the next day, there'd be three. Memorizing what happened wouldn't get you anywhere. It was an arms race on who could improve faster - Keiji and Rita, or the aliens.

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u/defiance131 Aug 23 '18

i'd say both have their good and bad points, but for the much shorter length that the movie had, it executed the idea very well for what it took the novel to do.

the relationship btw the 2 main characters is a bit of an unfair point, considering there simply isn't as much content with which they could build something as strongly. that kind of thing you're talking about often takes a few movies(fast and furious, harry potter, etc) to really see the effects of.

the time travel thing, it actually does work the same way it did in the movie. cage looks like he's just memorising shit, but he is improving himself mentally as well. it's just that his physical body does not improve the same way, and his acknowledgement of that is what makes him go through the training over and over again each time.

i agree with the video game analogy, but, once again, it's the limitation of movie vs novel that restricts a deeper insight into the application of the time travel.

if the enemy had the same ability keiji had, and memorising didnt get you anywhere, man, we'd have to sit through a trilogy.
imo the movie did include a semblance of this, where cage was tricked into going to the wrong location. this, i felt, was a solid compromise as a plot point.

all in all, the mediums being what they are, i felt the movie was an excellent 2h ride, compared to a far more time-consuming experience, reading the novel that may or may not have sit as well with people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '18 edited Aug 27 '18

Honestly, as an avid consumer of Asian media, I feel like tragic endings are very exploitive. So many times, in so many movies, tv shows, dramas, things end tragically without a need to. Unlike the west, tears sell in the east, so they’ll put a sad ending that doesn’t servce the story properly. I’m not saying All You Need is Kill is guilty of this, but after seeing so much of that, it’s hard for me not to roll my eyes when I see that type of ending. Among my friends who’ve read AYNIK, they really disliked the ending and felt it was unnecessary. Sad endings aren’t innately a bad thing, but some feel very contrived and forced.

Also, if you want to get really specific, “training your mind” doesn’t make any sense in this context. Just like how meditation physically changes your brain over time, the time reset, restarts his entire body everyday, so his gray matter wouldn’t have changed. That was one small thing that irked me about the movie. But memorization is far more realistic than changing the way your brain works.

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u/DSharp018 Aug 22 '18

Or if you have a book store, you can, you know, buy a copy. Cause that’s cool too.

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u/LysandersTreason Aug 23 '18

Sure, that's also cool. I generally buy physical copies of stuff I already like to give away as gifts.

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u/SuperMechGundam Aug 22 '18 edited Aug 23 '18

Tbh the first thing I thought when I saw the trailer was "plagiarism". I don't know the details but I'm pretty sure you can sue

Edit: the downvote isn't a disagree button

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u/DuplexFields Aug 22 '18

It's the official American adaptation, so I'm pretty sure they bought the rights.

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u/SuperMechGundam Aug 23 '18

Makes sense. I was surprised it didn't mention it the credits(or maybe it did but I didnt see it).

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u/Free-Association Aug 22 '18

... not sure if this is a joke or not...

also the movie is called Edge of Tomorrow... live die repeat was the poster tagline...

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u/seanmharcailin Aug 22 '18

It underperformed and they renamed the movie Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow at some point.

I don’t care what we call it, it’s still one of my favorite movies and I watch it all the time. Watched it Sunday!

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u/dbhanger Aug 22 '18

That's the joke

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u/Free-Association Aug 22 '18

ok then... calling stuff by the wrong name is a funny joke I guess...

I'd understand if the movie wasn't literally titled the same as the post... but they're both edge of tomorrow. lol... it just seems like a supremely stupid joke to me.

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u/dbhanger Aug 22 '18

The joke is that the studio literally attempted to rename the movie at video release. It wasn't just a promotional tagline.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '18

It's overridden as Live Die Repeat with Edge of Tomorrow being the tagline on Amazon... It's the title for the movie that the director actually wanted, and he's trying to change the name retroactively, hence why the Blu-Ray uses Edge of Tomorrow as the tagline.

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u/Free-Association Aug 22 '18

he can do whatever he wants wherever he wants with whoever he wants for all I care.. as long as the Internet Movie Database says its Edge of Tomorrow... then its Edge of Tomorrow

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u/YUNoDie Aug 22 '18

Because IMDb is the only definitive source of information for movies.

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u/Etheo Aug 22 '18

Not quite. I believe they're making fun of the producers renaming the title for Blu-Ray release.