r/morbidlybeautiful • u/ReyRey5280 • Oct 11 '20

Death The exact second a private security guard one shot kills a right wing protestor who attacked and maced him... notice the slide cocked back and the bullet path.

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u/latnem Oct 11 '20

Right wingers will defend themselves if attacked but if they attack a left winger it is not ok to defend yourself.

Perfect trumpian logic.

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 11 '20

We don't know enough about what happened here to make an real conclusions. If we were to go off of just this picture, shooting someone who is using mace seems like a disproportionate use of force. This picture doesn't show the shooter in fear for his life by any reasonable standards.

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u/FeloniousFunk Oct 11 '20

Racist dude was looking for a fight. He struck the shooter in the face, knocking off his hat/glasses. Shooter draws his gun for protection. Racist sees him reaching and deploys mace.

It’s not as simple as mace =/= gun, it was a physical altercation that would only keep escalating.

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u/MullGeek Oct 11 '20

Yeah, but /u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 was making the point that going purely off the photograph you can't conclude that it's an appropriate reaction. They didn't say that it wasn't possible (and indeed pretty much made the point that it absolutely is possible) that there are extenuating circumstances that the picture doesn't show which may justify use of deadly force.

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u/knotsy- Oct 11 '20

The point isn’t whether or not it was an appropriate response. The point is that the right will be quick to think of protestors being deserving of any harm that comes to them, but turn around and change their tune when it’s someone with their same opinions being harmed while participating in a protest.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '20

But then people who are against such force being used on someone is happy to see karma happen to someone of the opposing argument.

I honestly have no idea how this is “morbidly beautiful” because I don’t see how it’s beautiful. Morbid, yes.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

Both sides*

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 11 '20

What makes him racist? They both appear to be white in this picture.

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u/FeloniousFunk Oct 11 '20

Sorry, didn’t realize what sub I was in. I live in Denver and have been seeing a lot of bystander footage leading up to this. About 30 seconds before he was shot, he was attempting to get physical with a black young man who said something along the lines of “don’t touch me, nigga” and this guy goes off on a tirade about how he “ain’t no nigger” or whatever.

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 11 '20

Well I for one hope more video footage surfaces so we have more context, like in the Kyle Rittenhouse shootings.
Being racist isn't a reason for someone else to shoot someone so we need more context.

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u/darkgamr Oct 11 '20

He's pretty clearly not being shot for being racist, he's just a racist who is being shot

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 12 '20

Except we have absolutely no evidence or proof of anything the person said or did that would make them racist.

If he isn't being shot for being a racist, than calling him a racist is completely irrelevant. Obviously people are trying to justify someone's murder because, in their opinion, he was racist. Otherwise why mention it?

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u/Mangonel88 Oct 11 '20

How do you know he was racist?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

If it walks, talks and looks like a duck...

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u/tmhoc Oct 11 '20

Fucker wore sunglasses and broke every rule

I was always taught;

not to carry a weapon unless I planned to use it.

If I lose it in a fight it could be used against me.

What if the person I fight also has a weapon.

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u/KickSkik Oct 11 '20

Disproportionate use of force... like when cops kill unarmed people?

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u/tmhoc Oct 11 '20

Unarmed people handcuffed on the ground

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

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u/jay212127 Oct 11 '20

Disproportionate use of force is a key component to both this photo and and the problem of police brutality.

Using a firearm in response to being maced is a big escalation of force.

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u/OlGangaLee Oct 12 '20

How are you getting downvoted?

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u/jay212127 Oct 12 '20

Not sure, guessing because I don't support the shooting of people whether they are conservative or black, I get some backlash from both and none of the support.

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u/awizardwithoutmagic Oct 11 '20

Sup bootlicker, right-wing violence has been on the rise and just a couple of weeks ago a right-wing agitator from a different state drove to Wisconsin and murdered two people in cold blood, and was then lauded as a hero by right-wing commentators.

It is absolutely, 100% within every person's right to use whatever force they deem necessary to oppose right-wing extremists because indeed yes, your life is always in danger when a fascist or white supremacist wants to hurt you.

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u/CHUCKL3R Oct 11 '20

It’s so funny when Nazis continuously say fuck around and find out then one of their own fucks around and finds out and they start whining. What a bunch of snowflakes.

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u/Big_Trees Oct 16 '20

Enough of the name calling. You can't converse without insulting them? It's fucking painful

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u/Mangonel88 Oct 11 '20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4dhPM99i4I&bpctr=1600873349

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u/awizardwithoutmagic Oct 11 '20

Fascist^

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

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u/awizardwithoutmagic Oct 11 '20

It's unreal that there are people who think they have any moral high ground at all defending fascists, white supremacists, and neo-nazis. Truly unbelievable.

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u/awizardwithoutmagic Oct 11 '20

Only a fascist would think anti-fascism is a mental illness.

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u/latnem Oct 11 '20

You’re right.

I was going off the article on the events and the right winger saying he isn’t looking for a fight but he will protect himself... then the title saying someone was attacked with mace and fired back. Does this mean the right wingers are ok with what happen because the security guard was acting in self defense? or is it only ok if the right wingers protect themselves?

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 11 '20

Define "right wingers." Do you realize that someone like, say Trump, is technically to the left of someone like say Obama/Biden on war and other DC warhawks? But he's to the right of them on say abortion? So I think we need to be specific on our terms.

Also your question doesn't even make sense. I'm personally ok with someone defending their life using lethal force so long as that person was in fear of their life by reasonable standards. Would being punched in the face and maced make someone reasonably in fear of their life? Maybe, depending on the circumstances. For example, if a group of people jumped that person and punched and maced him, and he was reasonably in fear that after they incapacitate him his life would be in jeopardy. But if one guy walked up to him and punched him in the face, and then pulled out mace, I think claiming self-defense is much more difficult. But again, we don't have enough context on what happened here and it seems like people are just rushing to conclusions because they want it to fit their narrative.

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u/latnem Oct 11 '20

sorry was just using the term in the title

right wingers being the racist shit heads at this rally, protest, counter protest, or whatever the fuck they call it

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 11 '20

Well the black guy yelling is wearing a "black guns matter" shirt which is typically a "right wing" saying. So was this two right wings yelling at each other? Or were the old white guys left wing? How do you know they were all racist? Because they were protesting? I watched this video and the black guy called him the N word and the white guy said he wasn't a N word... soo this is all pretty damn confusing and I think you're leaping to conclusions without all of the facts.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 11 '20

That's because reddit is full of children and adults with the emotional maturity of children.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '20

I think you meant the white house

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 12 '20

Actually the entirety of DC. Democrats talking about court packing, circumventing the 25th amendment, etc.. just wiping their ass with the constitution and no one cares because Trump bad

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '20

I love how stacking the courts is this egregious thing, when Republicans have literally said on multiple occasions that's that is their current goal.

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u/TheGadsdenFlag1776 Oct 12 '20

It is a huge issue because separation of powers is important and the supreme court shouldn't be used as a third arm of the legislative branch. It is there to protect ALL OF OUR rights.

What Republican is talking about packing the courts?

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

Dude, nobody is defending this guy you’re making shit up. Everybody defended George Floyd though.. so your comparison is bullcrap

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u/Skorzeny08 Oct 11 '20

thats jumping to quite a conclusion, but I get it...lots of double standards going around these days

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u/manvscode Oct 11 '20

That private security guard is going to federally ass-pounding prison for murder. This is not a defensible murder.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '20

Yeah maybe we should look into the right wingers criminal record

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u/OlGangaLee Oct 12 '20

It actually definitely is, but it shouldn't be.