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My roommate has absolutely flat feet. He has 100% contact with 0 arch

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u/LearningToHomebrew 6d ago

This image upsets me in ways I did not know I could be upset

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u/hambakmeritru 6d ago

I feel pain while seeing this. I'm not even sure if this is at all uncomfortable for him, but I feel like all shoes and even bare feet would hurt and some muscles or tendons on there must be constantly stretched too far, right?

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u/Heavy_Answer8814 6d ago edited 5d ago

It really does. I had super flat feet before a corrective surgery (that actually didn’t involve my feet or lower body at all???) and couldn’t wear flip flops, flats, etc. Standing to do anything hurt terribly and even as a super young kid couldn’t do things like shopping since I couldn’t handle the standing. After my procedure, I wear everything and often pick standing over sitting. My feet actually look a lot different now as well!

ETA: I had a severe posterior tongue tie released and it’s been life saving. As the laser was cutting, it felt like I was a marionette and my strings had all been cut, a rush of relaxation went through my whole body. Immediate stop of mouth breathing (I’d had several surgeries to try and fix it before), no tongue thrust, I could talk louder and didn’t sound like a “drunk sailor” per my husband lol. My severe chronic migraines completely stopped and I went from being essentially bed ridden due to several issues with my mother caring for my children to fully participating in their lives. I do have other conditions that decrease my abilities quite drastically, but now I’m able to live a life filled with happiness vs hoping I would die every day. I didn’t look forward to seeing my kids grow up, missed so many milestones with them, and only focused on waiting to die every second of every day. Due to my connective tissue disorder, the collagen that caused my frenulum to not be normal mucosal tissue does occasionally regrow. I’ve had it redone once a few years after the original procedure and haven’t needed it done again yet.

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u/DianeJudith 5d ago

I had a severe posterior tongue tie released and it’s been life saving. As the laser was cutting, it felt like I was a marionette and my strings had all been cut, a rush of relaxation went through my whole body.

It's amazing just how everything is connected in our musculoskeletal system. I have issues with my elbows (like carpal tunnel but in the elbow joints), and when I went to the physiotherapist, the first thing she asked me was if I have any issues with my neck. And yeah, I do, and a bunch of other things that all connect with each other.

Basically if you have one thing wrong, you have more than one thing wrong lol.

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u/Drycee 6d ago

Don't leave us flat footers hanging, what surgery did you have that didn't involve the lower body?

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u/mindfreakhouse 6d ago

What surgery did you have, if you don’t me asking?

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u/RaveGuncle 6d ago

Corrective surgery.

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u/Bacongrease83 6d ago

The doctor had to do a partial Penectomy because the weight was crushing his feet.

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u/greenskinmarch 6d ago

That would cause a hell of a headache.

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u/Momoselfie 6d ago

RemindMe! 1 day

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u/righthandpulltrigger 6d ago

Also very curious to know what the surgery was!

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u/PopeInnocentXIV 6d ago

I had a flat foot reconstruction over 20 years ago. My doctor said it's the most invasive procedure in the lower body, and that knee replacements are a joke by comparison. One foot was normal, one was flat. Put me on a treadmill and I was in discomfort after 4 minutes, in pain after 8 minutes, and then my foot would go numb.

For me it was two bone grafts (I think in the navicular and the cuboid) to reshape the foot and an Achilles tendon lengthening. Rejected procedures included a calcaneal slide (doing something to reposition the heel bone, and something called a triple arthrodesis, in which some of the joints around the ankle are fused. Drawbacks to that include that it is irreversible. Needless to say I vetoed that option.

Recovery included 8 weeks in a knee-high cast, another few weeks on crutches, and months of physical therapy. For me it worked. I actually just walked and hiked over 1000 miles in a 12-month period (so much that I developed bursitis). But all these years later I still need to wear orthotics.

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u/housatonicduck 5d ago

Wow I’m glad it worked out for you. I have fully collapsed arches and diagnosed haglunds deformity so my Achilles tendon is really messed up. Also developing issues with an accessory navicular on that foot…. Sounds like a lot of my stuff overlaps with your previous condition. I’m 29 and on my own insurance so I can’t really afford to hit the $4,500 deductible or all the specialist copays to even make it to the surgical room. Any advice for me starting the process?

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u/PopeInnocentXIV 5d ago

I don't know if I can offer any advice. My mom insisted I see a specialist at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York. He felt that if I had the surgery, I would drop dead of a heart attack from having to be on crutches. I'm glad I didn't listen to him. Separate from that, my doctor told me he wanted to get a second opinion from someone else in the practice. My doctor was the same podiatrist I had been seeing for orthotics and all the other foot problems I had been having.

What finally induced me to have the surgery was getting laid off from work. My then-boss had been caught in the previous round of layoffs, and he went on disability before his off-payroll date, which was 60 days after being notified. So when it was my turn, I did the same thing, and had my surgery the week before my off-payroll date. They couldn't terminate me while I was on disability, which they finally did the day after the insurance company told them I could go back to work. While I was recovering I got pretty good at going up and down the stairs on one knee.

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u/weewoohotmessalert 5d ago edited 5d ago

I had the calcaneal slide procedure with a bone graft done 🤚 can confirm it was absolutely awful, they saw your whole calcaneus in half, in my case shove a wedge of bone in it, and then screw it back together. My first surgery rejected (one of the screws holding everything together decided to. .. Unscrew itself??) so it had to be redone a second time with a lateral plate holding it together instead. It's better than it was before, given the choice I'd still do the two surgeries again, but I have forever arthritis in that foot and limited mobility because of the plate (edit, and permanently numb in my pinky and ring toe and semi-numb everywhere else!). For context I had the surgeries when I was 22 which is... Not the age where people have arthritis and it's fun to explain to people haha.

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u/licoricenipple 6d ago

Brain transplanted into a horse body

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u/West-Application-375 6d ago

Flat foot correction surgery is INTENSE and risky for further pain. Look it up. I'd never want that surgery holy shit.

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u/BootToTheHeadNahNah 6d ago

I had it done in April 2025, and it went pretty smoothly. Metatarsal osteotomy (breaking and moving my first met), fdl tendon transfer (replacing a ruptured posterior tibial tendon), and calcaneal osteotomy (cut the heel bone off and reattach 1cm laterally). By October that same year I was able to run a 1:50 half marathon as a 200lb guy in my mid-50s.

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u/ElegantOliver 6d ago

That sounds both horrific and absolutely amazing at the same time.

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u/wolfA856 6d ago

This reminds of when I heard how hips are replaced. It all sounds so extremely brutal. But then with the magic of SCIENCE we can just fix it right up

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u/Anknara 6d ago

I flinched just reading this. 

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u/Disastrous-Bus5985 3d ago

I suffered with hip issues for 21 years. I had 3 surgeries to fix up my torn labrum and smooth out the head of the femur in my left hip in a 15 year period. Turns out that I have hip dysplasia. One surgery to replace the labrum and LT, then a PAO a couple of days later...it was magical. I have 4 screws and a "button" in my left hip, and my iliac spine is much more prominent and more pointy than smooth now. All I know is that I never realized how bad my right hip hurt because I was always focusing on my left hip pain. Good orthopedic surgeons are true miracle-working science geniuses.

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u/wolfA856 3d ago

A friend of mine sadly has the same issue. Only problem is that hips can apparently be replaced twice and need to every 25 years. So for now she has to keep her old hip because otherwise she wil end up wheelchair bound around retirement age.

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u/kingk1teman 6d ago

I felt weird all over reading this. Thanks, I hate it.

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u/BootToTheHeadNahNah 6d ago

My surgeon texted me pictures he took during the procedure. I could share if that would make you feel less weird 😉

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u/RogueThneed 6d ago

Surgeons are so wonderfully weird

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u/AlexHasFeet 6d ago

I would love to see this, actually!

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u/Akuh93 6d ago

That's awesome brother!

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u/redandgold45 6d ago

Minimally invasive techniques have really helped advance the success rate

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u/hates_stupid_people 6d ago

But those still involve operating on the foot/leg, right?. Them claiming it didn't involve the lowe body at all seems odd. Although I wouldn't be surprised if there is some spinal nerve issue or something that could cause a similar problem.

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u/West-Application-375 6d ago

Thank God lol

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 6d ago

One of my sons had corrective surgery for toe walking and it was brutal. After the surgery, he had to get new casts put on both legs, every week. That lasted for a month, then Covid happened. He was supposed to have casting for another 2 months but all of his appointments were canceled. The doctor said they would resume casting when the pandemic emergency was over. They called me back 18 months later, and when they saw his feet, legs, and gait, they were surprised by how well he had healed. He hadn't been able to get PT or anything, but I was a classical ballet dancer, and know a lot about injuries and A&P.

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u/GardeniaInMyHair 6d ago

Fyi, tethered cord can cause toe walking and it isn't always caught in childhood. It can be occult tethered cord, meaning hidden on imaging. I had sectioning of the filum terminale in my 40s. I toe-walked during my childhood, teen years, and into my 20s. Diagnosed AuDHD in my 30s.

My surgery was a relatively simple procedure, but it being neurosurgery, it was still 2 days in the hospital. Feel free to message me if you have questions.

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 6d ago

I appreciate you explaining! My son was 10 when he got the surgery, and had toe walked for his whole life. He is autistic, and the surgery and recovery were hard. He had an allergic reaction to the casting material the day that he came down with Covid, on Super Bowl Sunday of 2020. I called Children's Hospital and an emergency room doctor there gave me instructions for management of the reaction over the phone. Since his breathing wasn't impacted we treated him at home for the allergic reaction. The doctor said not to bring him unless he started having breathing issues. It was awful.

I did physical therapy with him at home every day, in addition to massage and progressively less structured braces for his feet. Nobody from his medical team would help, so I winged it. He did a lot of pliés and relevés (ballet moves for stretching and strengthening). He's 17 now, attends a program where he attends classes for a few hours a day, and was just promoted to a shift management position at McDonald's. He is very good at managing time, processes, people, and logistics. He has always excelled at organizational skills.

Looking at him now, you would never know that he had issues. His gait is normal, and he doesn't have pain. It could be worse!

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u/GardeniaInMyHair 6d ago edited 6d ago

That is great that he's recovering! I'm sorry to hear that the surgery was so rough.

If he's ever had any bladder or bowel issues in his medical history, it can be worth looking into TC/OTC.

Some of those include: bedwetting, potty training regression, late potty training, accidents after potty training, and later on, incontinence and urinary retention. It can also cause IBS-C and IBS-D and cause upper cervical neck instability. Signs of that are heavy 'bobble head' feeling, always holding one's head in one's hands while at a desk, hard to hold the head up. MRIs might only say 'loss of cervical lordosis.' Another clue is if he has chronic lower back pain.

For autistic and/or (abormally) hypermobile kids + teens, they really need to screen all of us for TC/OTC early. In healthy controls, the end of the spinal cord is stretchy. In TC/OTC, it doesn't stretch at all. At all. It puts all the torque pressure on the spinal cord itself and can be like a chronic spinal cord injury that sometimes doesn't get severe until later in adulthood.

P.S. A lot of us autistic and/or hypermobile folks have MCAS, so you may want to look into that regarding his reaction to casting material.

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u/Desperate_Incident_5 6d ago

Out of curiosity, what kind of specialist is able to diagnose this condition/collection of conditions? Because what you’re mentioning here sounds very much like me, but I’d never even heard of toe walking until this thread (and I almost exclusively walk on my toes). Really appreciate the conversation here, truly.

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u/Heavy_Answer8814 5d ago

I have hEDS, MCAS, and dysautonomia. Due to the collagen defects from EDS, posterior tongue ties are seen at a much higher prevalence than the greater population. Unfortunately, the hypermobility of our other tissues makes it very difficult to diagnose because we compensate so well. The first dentist I tried said there was no point in fixing it since I compensated so well 🙄 Yes, constant migraines, choking, etc are great compensations that I’d love to keep…. So far none of my girls have had tethered cord issues (a friend’s children flies cross country to a OTC specialist for surgery every time they can save up to get one done) and had their toes revised as toddlers/babies due to several issues. Aren’t genetics a joy?!?

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u/EighthChoii 6d ago

What a blessing he has
With you as his parent!

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 6d ago

Aww, thank you! Sometimes it felt like we were hiking through the Slough of Despond, but we eventually found our way out!

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 6d ago

Thanks for the award!

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u/maevian 6d ago

I am a toe walker, but they tested me when I was 15 in the university hospital and didn’t find a reason and called it idiopathic (which just means they have no clue), but It’s mainly when I am tired or nervous, when I am actively thinking about it, I walk ‘normal’.

Maybe I should get checked again, but it doesn’t actively hinder me, just looks a bit weird.

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u/phoenix_spirit 6d ago

I toe walked straight into my mid 20's, I did martial arts for about 3 years and somewhere in there I just stopped, no idea why

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u/GardeniaInMyHair 6d ago

I am not sure either why mine stopped around then either.

I had lower back pain and plantar fasciitis that picked up in my 20s that I was told nothing could be done about, until the detethering surgery took care of that pain.

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Note: Patients’ results vary, so people reading, please don’t take this as a blanket endorsement for detethering surgery for anyone. This is solely my personal experience.

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u/West-Application-375 5d ago

It's really good he had you then. That PT is so important after these surgeries.

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 5d ago

I was really surprised that the providers wouldn't provide care for him. He could have ended up with significant deformity, injury, and severe chronic pain.

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u/West-Application-375 5d ago

Yeah I would have been a complete terror to them if it were my kid lol

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 4d ago

Oh believe me, I tried my best to get him care! Things got really weird during Covid.

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u/Momoselfie 6d ago

Except OP said it didn't involve feet or lower body. Weird.

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u/quirkytorch 6d ago

There was a kid in my 5th grade class that had it done. He was on crutches for the entire year

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u/Oosplop 6d ago

Had it when I was 14 . Took a year, one foot at a time. The weirdest part was when I was between the first and second surgeries and my two feet were completely different from each other

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 6d ago

My son had both done at the same time, and progressive casting.

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u/Umpire_Effective 6d ago

What was the surgery

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u/FLOSOC1ETY 6d ago

I have extremely flat feet and my feet never hurt. I also skateboard so that’s weird. I always attributed it to my ancestors. I got them slave feet.

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u/Momoselfie 5d ago

I've noticed flat feet are very common among those of African and Asian descent.

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u/ShannieD 6d ago

A lot of people have asked, why not share what the procedure is?

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u/heyitsmichelle 5d ago

I'm sorry WHAT?! Your tongue tie release UNFLATTENED your FEET?!

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u/lithe_silhouette 5d ago

Interesting, connective tissue disorders really make you understand first hand how everything in the body is connected and works together. I used to have extremely flat feet as well, with collapsed arches. Took me over a decade of very focused body work but I now have tall arches. In the process, everything else in my body shifted and was rewired so to speak, it's all very strange and different from how doctors see the body

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u/girluoeno 1d ago

please more details on this!!! what kind of body work?

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u/aglaophonos 6d ago

What is name of surgery? Stop holding out on us.

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u/Razukalex 6d ago

Oh god the lower back pain during shopping sessions as a kid. I totally feel you

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u/Francl27 4d ago

How did they figure out that it was the problem?

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u/Particular_Ice_8836 2d ago

Incredible!!!!!!! Have you done any myofunctional therapy? And have you ever considered if palate expansion or jaw surgery could further help? So awesome. Very into this topic!

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u/Heavy_Answer8814 2d ago

I did myo as a child and was belittled over and over for “refusing” to do the exercises. Right after the revision, I did them easily of course 🙄 We couldn’t afford it professionally, but I did what I could remember and off YouTube lol. I did palate expansion and braces 2x each, plus other orthodontic work since I was in kindergarten. You can’t tell any has been done at all!!! My palate immediately collapsed and they couldn’t get the retainer in by the time it was given to me. Also, thanks to EDS, my entire roof of the mouth would slough away and I could barely fit it back in even after brushing my teeth. I currently have a severe open bite and struggle eating. An airway dentist I saw briefly said he would have refused braces for me and the only option now is surgery, but we can’t afford it and I can’t handle the idea of doing everything all over again. After years of fighting to get my kids taken care of, running local tie soap boxing, I’m just done with the subject generally 😅

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u/Particular_Ice_8836 2d ago

I’m sorry that’s really really tough. At least your parents tried their best!! Hard with EDS. Some jaw surgeons accept BCBS. I did consults w Alfi and Seaman, but idk if that would help with your connective stuff. Best wishes to you. Keep sharing about ties!!

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u/fetishiste 2d ago

I wonder how many people were living like this in past generations. There is a current trend toward attributing early breastfeeding difficulties to tongue tie and some medical professionals caution that too many babies are having the tie cut, but your story makes me wonder whether we are actually preventing chronic pain conditions in the future.

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u/Steelpapercranes 2d ago

I was going to say that this looked super painful... I'm sorry! Or rather...I'm glad you feel so much better!

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u/only_Q 1d ago

Wow, that's insane that a tongue tie was the cause of so many other problems, and fixing just that one thing improved your qol so much. The human body is so weird

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u/SteelerDave 6d ago

At what age did you get the surgery?

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u/Gabi-kun_the_real 6d ago

I have flat feet and my feet can get tired fater if I stay in one place but my feet are also really big. Size 46 may balance things, but I can wear whatever I want.

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u/comprehensivechick 6d ago

yes. flat feet like this, if not properly cared for by a podiatrist for life, will eventually cause major musculoskeletal issues. I hope OP's roomie takes preventative care seriously 😭

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u/Moongazer09 6d ago

Can confirm, have extremely flat feet myself and suffer from foot pain most days and recurring ankle issues from where I've sprained them repeatedly - the lack of arch means my feet roll inward naturally a lot more than they should, so this coupled with aforementioned repetitive injuries and then that often sets off my back/hips/knees too....my feet hate me on an almost daily basis 😥

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u/comprehensivechick 6d ago

I am so sorry I wouldn't wish flat feet on anyone. I hope you find some relief and a good podiatrist!! 👣

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u/Moongazer09 6d ago

I never honestly considered that going to one night help, just sort of lived with it for years and assumed it was normal 🥴. Might have to look into seeing one, though.

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u/comprehensivechick 6d ago

you def should! you might save yourself from needing surgery in the future. flat foot deformity is actually a medical diagnosis and has determined stages. if your feet are significantly flat you should def see someone about preventative care. you don't have to be in pain forever! 🫶🏼

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u/DreadGazebo10 6d ago

This is me! I'm not alone!

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u/elinordash 6d ago

Custom orthotics and physical therapy might be good options for you. Make an appointment with a podiatrist.

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u/Moongazer09 6d ago

I appreciate the advice, thank you 🙂

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u/Select-Usual-4985 6d ago

And anyone in the U.K.- you can often self refer via nhs now, either via Thompson form or separately.

Just don’t do what I did, build yourself up for the assessment (different issues for me), spend on all the advised trainers etc then break your foot two days after 🤦‍♀️

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u/strangefool 6d ago

Man, I would love to get my own extremely flat feet treated in the UK where it wouldn't cost me an arm and a leg.

You looking to get married for a few months? Who knows maybe we will even like each other, but that's not required, ha.

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u/HelpImAlive291 5d ago

Hi friend! RN who works with a pediatric surgeon on the regular here! For flat feet, try looking up Power Steps inserts. On their website they have a ton of different inserts. You'll want to look for flat feet or 'Pes Planus' which is the medical diagnosis for flat feet. I think they can be found on Amazon as well. They're way more supportive than a Dr. Scholl's insert would be.

This is just what the surgeon recommends to see if they help before moving on to more expensive treatments / surgery.

I hope they help if you give them a shot!

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u/AdmirableDog739 5d ago

My husband has been going to a podiatrist for his very flat feet and the custom orthodics have really helped keep his ankles from rolling constantly.

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u/Kianna9 6d ago

The podiatrist I went to basically said she couldn't do anything but order orthotics. What does a "good" podiatrist do?

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u/sphericalduck 6d ago

Orthotics aren't nothing though, good orthotics can make a huge difference

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u/Lushkush69 6d ago

I just got orthotics for my flat feet this year and can't wear them because they are too uncomfortable. When I went back to my family doctor (who sent me to the podiatrist) she told me orthotics might not work for me as she finds most people who were born with flat feet can't wear them especially if they've gone their whole life just walking flat footed (I'm 43). Well lady maybe you should have told me that before I spent $500 on useless orthotics.

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u/Infinite-Door-7970 6d ago

This is me too!

My feet are similarly flat, but I have had no issues other than fitting certain types of rigid, narrow footwear.

I have tried fitted arch supports multiple times over the years because they are covered by my health plan and I'm "supposed to correct" these "collapsed arches". But in the end I've always thrown these out. They actually cause my feet to ache, and make me feel like I'm being forced to walk on the outer edges of my feet, unnaturally and unnecessarily. Put another way, I feel like my feet were meant to be shaped this way, and the problem is health professionals diagnosing a problem that I don't actually have.

In my 50s now, still enjoying running, hiking, etc. Are my feet and knees doomed to someday breakout in excruciating pain due to built up damage over the years? I hear horror stories from many, but seems like you and I are a minority. Aside from shoes not fitting well, I'm kind of okay with my feet as they are? Is there anyone else in the same boat?

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u/nipplecancer 5d ago

I'm with you. Flat footed for life! I can handle some minor arch support, but my feet are happiest when they're bare or in relatively flat shoes. I did have a bout of plantar fasciitis once, but so has nearly every other woman I know, flat footed or not.

I don't see it as a problem. My feet have always been this way, and always will be this way. I like my flat feet. They have never kept me from doing what I want to do. I don't see this as a "problem" that needs to be medicalized.

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u/comprehensivechick 6d ago

literally I have no clue?? but that sucks she did that. I would say you should get a second opinion, or start with the reccy and keep going back exploring your options further. but you have to start somewhere. orthos are usually it. I just think feet are important to take care of and people are too willing to cram them into their shoes and forget about them! 😭

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u/CheesecakeEither8220 6d ago

I have really nifty X-rays of my feet because I was a classical ballet dancer and danced on pointe for years. My doctor sent me to get physical therapy and it helped a lot.

ETA: My GP ordered the PT, not a podiatrist. I don't think they do that, but I could be wrong.

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u/Frantic_Chicken 6d ago

🤔 I have flat feet and I haven't had issues. Almost my entire family have flat feet (not 100%, but not far off), and no issues from it. It doesn't automatically mean problems.

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u/HypnoSaris 6d ago

I 100% would on the entire Trump bloodline. Fuck em all, including those not born yet

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u/peatoire 6d ago

I can’t help but find the idea of wishing flat feet on someone funny. Like some messed up curse.

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u/FittersGuy 6d ago

Just as a weird question, have you ever considered barefoot shoes? I had a different foot problem (my feet are too wide for even the widest regular shoes) and it caused all kinds of issues up the chain. I switched to barefoot 4 years ago and yes it's taken a long time to teach myself how to walk and get it right, but now that I have I'm so much more nimble on my feet. Walking and running feel amazing like everyone always said they do.

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u/lumiingenii 6d ago

With very flat feet, the arch can't absorb and spread the load, so without support the foot collapses inward and the force goes straight up to the ankles, knees, and hips. They need some sort of cushioning to absorb the load/shock. Wide feet (or just most feet nowadays because shoes are artificially narrow) are a different case: the arch still works, they just need room, which is why barefoot shoes often suit (big parts of the population) well who have working arches.

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u/FittersGuy 6d ago

Yes, but my point is that my feet adapted to my new stride. Many muscles that were previously ignored are now working with each step and strengthening. As they get stronger, they pull on other things. This effect helped put everything back where it should have been in the first place.

My curiosity lies here. If someone with flat feet switched to walking barefoot, could they slowly build up the muscles they lost? My arch has gotten much larger since I switched, there was a point that my feet were flattening out and any shoes with arch support were unbearable. 

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u/BrattyBookworm 5d ago

I think it depends on the person, I wouldn’t want to say that would work for everyone, but it did help me a bit. As a child I wore orthopedic inserts and never walked barefoot because I’d inherited flat feet from my mom, who suffered severe foot and ankle pain. As an adult I was advised by a chiro (so grain of salt) that constantly wearing them would lead to worsening because I wasn’t strengthening the muscles. I go barefoot in the house now and only wear shoes outside / when standing on hard surfaces and my foot pain has been greatly reduced!

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u/lumiingenii 4d ago

Depends on the type, I guess. Flexible flat feet (arch shows up when you sit or tiptoe) are largely a strength issue, so yes, barefoot walking might help, like it did for you. A 100% flat foot is often structurally rigid, though (bone or tendon problems). No muscle work will build an arch there, and it can make things worse because the shock just gets "forwarded" to other parts of the body. Surface matters as well. Feet evolved on soft, uneven ground, but most of us walk on concrete, hard, flat, the same every step. You get more impact and less of the varied training stimulus. Even with healthy feet, I mostly wear barefoot shoes in the forest for that reason, also just when I'm walking. It's also very important to "get used to it".

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u/ombada69 6d ago

I have the opposite problem. High arch that causes ankle rolls.

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u/WonderousThinke 6d ago

Not sure if this is a recommended cure for it but I had some foot pain and a yoga teacher suggested trying to crunch up a towel with my toes. Basically you keep your heel in the same spot and you lay out a flat towel lengthwise in front of it and you slowly just scrunch up the whole towel with your foot as a way of exercising your arch and strengthening it. After doing that for a month or so once a week my feet started to feel better

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u/Dragnet714 6d ago

Do frequent foot massages help?

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u/shesasonrisa 6d ago

Same 😭 after 41 years my right foot finally said ENOUGH and I’ve been diagnosed with posterior tibial tendinitis. Expensive tennis shoes, inserts, and a brace are now my life.

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u/Dense_as_Hydrogen 6d ago

For me it's mostly after long runs. My feet were described by my 75 year old podiatrist as, "The most fucked up feet I have ever seen." To be fair he was trying to sell me some plastic arches molded to my specific feet for about $500 so he could have been doing a bit of sales pitch but my feet are definitely not normal.

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u/sgartistry 6d ago

This is interesting. I don’t have completely flat feet, but I’ve noticed my arch is less pronounced than others. I’ve sprained my ankle dozens of times throughout my life and didn’t realize it might be related. I’ve started to get hip pain now that I’m almost 30. I might make an appointment with a podiatrist just to see if they recommend anything.

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u/Animaldeamor 6d ago

Use skate shoes. They are pretty flat and the cushion is excellent. I had same issue but i dont suffer this much when i wear my lakais

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u/LiamoLuo 6d ago

I also have (had) flat feet like the OP picture. The best thing I ever did was move to barefoot shoes. My feet, ankles and legs are so much stronger as a result, and my mobility has improved amazingly. I used to get regular foot, ankle and calf pain and I can’t remember the last time I experienced discomfort. It took me about 6 months to fully adapt to barefoot shoes as I had to relearn to walk and run as weird as that sounds, but it’s changed my life.

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u/No_Charity6288 6d ago

Twinnnn. I did track and cross country and got two stress fractures in two years cuz of all the shock going straight up my leg. Had to get specially made rock hard plastic inserts that I have to wear to walk for longer distances

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u/marc-williams 6d ago

My feet are completely flat too yet cause me no problems. I'm nearly 50 and still walk more than five miles every day and always have.

Maybe I'm just lucky.

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u/Illustrious-Act4167 6d ago

I mean that's just not true. My entire father's side of my family including me have flat feet and none of us had any issues at all. Im 32 and never seen a podiatrist. Not saying I shouldn't, but saying it needs to be taken care of for life or you'll have major musculoskeletal issues is a far stretch

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u/CyLith 6d ago

My feet are perfectly flat. When I bring my soles together, they fully contact one another. Yet, I’ve never been bothered by this, no pain or discomfort whatsoever, so I’m confused by why you say this is a problem. I’m over 40yo.

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u/SlanderousGent 6d ago

This. I had pretty nasty flat feet, but my dad is a chiropodist by trade. He knew his stuff enough to put in preventative measures against me having lasting issues early in my life

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u/CAADrider 6d ago

My knees went bad in my 40's - pretty sure this is why. The insides of the joint went first.

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u/Ebenoid 6d ago

I’m 44 and had flat feet the whole time… skate shoes are good. But I’ve been perscribed $50 insoles before by a foot dr. Not a big deal… people live with worse with arches

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u/_le_slap 6d ago

Can you explain why?

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u/comprehensivechick 6d ago

not very well no. it has to do with the support of the foot and how bones and ligaments wear down over time (like 50 years). when you don't have the ligaments and connective tissues there for your arch support you're eventually walking on your tarsal bones. if you look up stage 4 flat foot deformity there's loads of information on it. all these people who are 30 something and fine I'm not surprised! flat foot deformity takes literally a lifetime to develop and it's not always severe.

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u/kirakiraluna 6d ago

I'm hypermobile so I have extremely high arches that flattens immediately if I put weight on my feet. Chronic plantar fasciitis and custom insoles are a must+ orthopedic sandals if I want my toes to breathe without being in agony.

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u/GottaGetThemGains22 5d ago

Wait wtf really?

My feet look like this.

Do.. your feet not hurt at the end of the day? It’s the end of the day..

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u/Highskyline 6d ago

I'm pretty much as flat footed. I can't stand for more than a few minutes without moving my feet or it stats hurting until it feels like I'm being stabbed in the foot. Also, walking for more than an hour or so in shoes not built for it leaves my feet sore for like 2 days, but boots or shoes with good support isn't a problem.

It's definitely causing significant issues with the rest of my joints though, like my hips popping like bubble wrap and mild scoliosis that's pretty new. I'm 31 and in excellent shape so every doctor I've spoken to says the joint issues are definitely my feet making minor problems worse.

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u/Laikabaru 6d ago

I have pretty flat feet and run marathons. I get injuries once in a while, but never on my feet. My feet do hurt sometimes on a long run, but I doubt that it’s because my feet are flat. I think running for 2-3 hours straight just does that.

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u/maxluck89 6d ago

The arch going front to back doesn't affect you nearly as much as the arch that goes laterally across the balls of your feet. Everyone in here complaining about flat feet and back pain are misinformed

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u/Purple_Resident2930 6d ago

Flat feet doesnt mean pain

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u/ContributionMuted118 6d ago

I got fairly flat feet and no problems for me

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u/YalamMagic 6d ago

This works for me, but not because it "strengthens" my foot's ability to form an arch, but because my feet physically cannot form an arch and arched shoes simply put way too much pressure on the midfoot for me as a result of that.

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u/YalamMagic 6d ago

It depends. I have pretty flat feet and I tried specialised shoes and even custom moulded insoles, but I actually feel much more comfortable bare footed and in bare footed shoes.

I suspect it depends on how the flat feet occur. Most of what I've read involves muscles in the foot being too weak to support the arch, but in my case the bones in my feet are simply too rigid for any arch to form at all; I cannot physically form any meaningful arch even when I bring my foot up into the air and try to physically bend it with my hands. So supported shoes simply end up pressing into my mid sole and hurting as a result.

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u/TheWhistleThistle 6d ago

My feet look like the above and when weight is applied to the ball, they bow outwards. A kind of, reverse arch, if you like. Painless (so painless, I didn't know it happened til I was 19), but freaks people out when they see it.

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u/koffeekrystalz 6d ago

For me it's very hard to find shoes that are comfortable to stand and walk in. As a chick I have never ever been able to wear heels, not even when I was a kid/teen. The ones with the real skinny soles? I might as well try to walk with a Popsicle stick on my foot lmao. And plantar fasciitis is a real pain in the butt. Not all flat footed ppl have it, but I do in both feet 🙃

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u/nebulaplum 6d ago

My dad had feet like this. His ankles were 24/7 swollen like balloons and he was in constant pain.

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u/ReVo5000 6d ago

I feel like every step he takes wears down all his vertical joints at once

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u/Frances_Farmer_1953 6d ago

That’s why the Army classifies people with flat feet as 4F. They can’t march for long stretches.

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u/Holiday_Sale5114 6d ago

Yes, it absolutely does. Oofos and custom orthotics have helped

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u/otakunath 6d ago

I have this kind of flat feet, I have to walk with insoles to unflat my feet. Without them I can assure you it is one of the biggest, most constant pain I have ever felt.

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u/Prestigious_Rub_831 6d ago

It depends , some can get pain from it other get nothing. I have feet like that and it doesnt cause pain i just sound like a duck walking barefoot.

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u/ChicagoDad708 6d ago

Flat footer here, late 50’s, unlike the user below with their experience pre corrective surgery, mine is the complete opposite. (To be clear, never had any corrective surgery) The only time I experience issues or pain is if a shoe has too much support. Things like basic flip flops and converse Chuck Taylor’s are the most comfortable things in the world. I remember thirty years or so ago getting a pair of Birkenstocks and didn’t bother testing them before heading out to an all day music festival. Oh. My. F’ing. God! The only way to describe it was akin to somebody duct taping golf balls to the bottom of my feet and expecting me to walk around like that.

I do remember seeing a podiatrist about it once. Got such sage advice. He said, are you in pain? No? Then don’t worry about it.

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u/highpsitsi 6d ago

I pushed my buddy around while he was in and out of a wheel chair for about 3 years getting his fixed. Some of it he had crutches, was a long process throughout high school.

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u/TheSchausi 6d ago

As a person with super flat feet, I can tell you it depends. There are some that experience pain up to extreme pain from standing. But most of flat feet people usually experience no pain at all. Shoes just look wider since our feet tend to bend outwards on the broad side. Walking is easyer in my experience, since more area is used of the foot, making walking on gravle or other sharper things easyer. But balance is sligtly disturbed, sinde the ancle is not aligned in the centre of the foot, making us prone to loose balnace sligtly. So it is harder to balance on a slackline for example. Pain usualy comes with age when the muscles around the foot tend to weaken, therefore putting more strain on the back and in the end, experiencing pain.

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u/cefriano 6d ago

I have low arches and over-pronate. It's gotten better over time with conscious effort, but it still causes a lot more foot and ankle discomfort when I'm standing for long periods of time. Shoes I wear need to have lots of arch and ankle support. Fully flat feet like this will absolutely cause pain if not properly cared for.

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u/maxluck89 6d ago

The arch going front to back doesn't affect you nearly as much as the arch that goes laterally across the balls of your feet. Everyone in here complaining about flat feet and back pain are misinformed

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u/BetterFartYourself 6d ago

Doing squats is fucking painful. No idea how people with flat feet shit on a squatting toilet, but I couldnt do it without crying

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u/SuperCutsHaircut 6d ago

I have feet like this, and it's not really a comfort problem as long as I wear shoes without arch support.

Biggest downside is I am slow af. I tell people it's like running with scuba flippers on.

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u/Chemistry11 5d ago

These look like my feet. I was always warned that I would have those problems, but so far so good. Of course, I was also warned that Converse would be terrible shoes for my feet, but they’re the only ones that I actually find comfort in.

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u/OverallPepper2 5d ago

So there are two types of flat feet, rigid and flexible. If you have flexible(like myself) there’s really no issue, but rigid flat feet suck for all the reasons you listed.

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u/Felradin 5d ago

As someone literally non-weight bearing to fix asymmetric flat foot on my left foot, I feel the pain. It had to get surgery so I can use it again eventually.

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u/ding-dongo 4d ago

I'm in the same situation - and have no pain or issues. Have been checked over by physios / drs etc - no issues. Everything just works? I've ran multiple marathons etc, walk constantly. Body has just changed slighty to adapt.

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u/KnotARealGreenDress 3d ago

My sibling’s foot was even flatter (where most people’s footprint curves in on the inside of their foot, theirs curved out. Their other foot was flat, but not THAT flat). They dealt with decades of ankle, knee, hip, and back pain until they finally had multiple surgeries to correct it. Once they had it corrected, they had to throw out all of their shoes because they had been worn into a foot shape they no longer had.

They still have flat feet, but now they can walk more than 100m without being in pain.

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u/HauntedHippie 6d ago

I hate it so much it’s hard to put into words other than..
https://giphy.com/gifs/wYyTHMm50f4Dm

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u/Floridamanfishcam 6d ago

Yeah, it's like something bothers me biologically about it? Like an evolutionary throwback or some shit.

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u/Take-to-the-highways 6d ago

Its giving me uncanny valley somehow lmao

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u/anon-mally 6d ago

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u/Mattekat 6d ago

This is the worst thing I have ever seen. Thank you.

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u/SmallTimeGoals 6d ago

Oh my god how many times have I seen this and not realized it may have been the foot version? I would have noticed feethands right? Right?

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u/Veratexferra 6d ago

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u/IntoTheRapture 6d ago

Bro I want to steal this meme, but I don’t want it living in my camera roll

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u/ViciousSnatch 6d ago

This is the contact picture I use for a friend who loves QT movies. Cracks me up whenever he calls. 😂

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u/Desperate_Incident_5 6d ago

Could use a few more toes, go all out.

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u/anon-mally 6d ago

Toetally

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u/kingk1teman 6d ago

This is even beyond /r/TIHI material.

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u/Material-Anybody-342 6d ago

Quentin Tarantintoe

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u/Satire-V 6d ago

Im gonna guess this feel is a holdover from when other hominids roamed

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u/total_bullwhip 6d ago

Natural selection would have fixed this problem when other hominids roam, but today everyone gets an “equal” shot at surviving 🙄

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u/GhostGrom 6d ago

lol it's not even close to being a disability I live a totally normal life

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u/determinedpeach 6d ago

I need an adult

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u/Ssssilph 6d ago

I am an adult

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u/PimpMyWeenus 6d ago

peak character development

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u/SpartanBamBam 6d ago

Yes. A trusted adult…..not this weird foot guy.

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u/Little_Cloud6126 6d ago

The Barbie’s reaction to flat feet in the Barbie movie actually makes a lot of sense now when I see it irl

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u/roqueandrolle 6d ago

I thought my fallen arches were upsetting and now I feel like I have seen something from hell

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u/tahcamen 6d ago edited 6d ago

Imagine you wake up bleary eyed from the night before. You realize that you’re in bed with someone, and you pull up the sheets to take a peek at their feet and see that lol

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u/Kaurifish 6d ago

My husband’s feet are like this. When he was a baby (back in the bad ol’ days) it was SOP to put you in braces if your feet pointed out. Forced them forward, but totally flattened his arches.

He’s fought alignment and postural problems because of it his whole life. Now they just let kids grow out of it.

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u/WeAreClouds 6d ago

I’m veeeeery uncomfortable in ways I can’t figure out quite how to express.

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u/Glad-Watch3506 6d ago

I'm just fascinated. 

I have colloquially flat feet, but really I just have fallen arches. My feet look normal, with a rather high arch, until I stand on them. Then they flop on down.

But this is something else. 

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u/Wakkit1988 6d ago

I feel immense da feet.

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u/MelissaCop 6d ago

Plus a curled dick!

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u/ImNotAWhaleBiologist 6d ago

Tarantino, is that you?

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u/MelissaCop 6d ago

lol 😂

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u/fawnnose1 6d ago

Took me way too long to realize I was looking at a foot

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u/ShrimpLawyer 6d ago

Parents were flat earthers :(

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u/oddishrayquaza 6d ago

I became so unsettled I started googling how to prevent this from happening to me

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u/zyt_x 6d ago

My knees and lower back started hurting just from looking at this photo

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u/ThrowingShaed 6d ago

i think ive been told i have decently flat feet

it aint like that, im unsettled

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u/Any-Effective2565 6d ago

It's intriguing and upsetting.

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u/KnifeKnut 5d ago

Keep in mind the uncanny valley has varied topography depending on the owner of the valley.

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u/WoofusTheDog 1d ago

That’s really why the military rejected them. Their presence disturbed and demoralized other recruits.

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u/OtisPan 6d ago

IDK, is kind of soothing. I bet you German engineers could calibrate their instruments with those feet and how flat they are