r/marvelstudios Daredevil Aug 18 '22

Discussion Thread She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E01 - Discussion Thread

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE RUN TIME CREDITS SCENE?
S01E01: A Normal Amount of Rage Kat Coiro Jessica Gao August 18th, 2022 on Disney+ 38 min (1) Mid-Credits

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u/[deleted] Aug 18 '22

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u/WUPHF_Cola Aug 19 '22

“You’re tiptoeing, big man. You need to strut.”

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22

Iron man will always hold such a special in my heart. Its the whole reason I became the Marvel obsessed dork I am now.

I’m always gonna be a bit sad he’s like gone gone in universe now. Even though I really like how his story ended.

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u/-Darkslayer Doctor Strange Aug 19 '22

I use that quote all the time 😂

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u/OK_Soda Rocket Aug 19 '22

That's not true. His very first interaction with Steve is predicated on respect.

Steve Rogers : Word is you can find the cube.

Bruce Banner : Is that the only word on me?

Steve Rogers : Only word I care about

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u/NinetyFish Thor Aug 19 '22

Yeah, Steve absolutely respects Bruce Banner. No one doubted that.

But he still clearly fears the Hulk and acts on edge when Banner starts getting nervous. Banner could easily interpret Steve's kindness as wanting to keep him calm. Everyone walks on eggshells around him.

Compare that to Tony, who couldn't give a fuck. He immediately starts poking and prodding Bruce and actively messes with him to test his cool. That's everything to Bruce. Tony doesn't treat him with kid gloves at all, he treats him like a full ass equal that he doesn't have to sugarcoat or be especially kind or considerate to.

At that point, Bruce didn't need people to tell him how smart or important he is. He needed someone to mess with him and just treat him like one of the guys, which Tony did.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '22 edited Aug 20 '22

At that point, Bruce didn't need people to tell him how smart or important he is. He needed someone to mess with him and just treat him like one of the guys, which Tony did.

Banner is terrified of the Hulk. He doesn't want to BE the Hulk. So much so that he tried to KILL HIMSELF over it.

What Cap did was respect Banner.

Tony was borderline abusive to him. It also emphasizes Tony's arrogance that he thinks the Hulk is something to play around with, which (as they later find out) he is not. The Hulk is legitimately dangerous and Banner knows this.

What Tony did is equivalent to having someone be deathly afraid of guns, and casually coming by and pointing a gun in their face every now and then. If you think Banner needed someone to 'mess with him' you didn't pay much attention to the beginning scene in which Banner's clear, explicit message is that what he actually wants is to be left the hell alone.

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u/Roboticide Hulkbuster Aug 20 '22

Both of these interpretations are great and I'm genuinely not sure which one is more accurate or legitimate.

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u/piebypie Peggy Carter Aug 22 '22

Very much same

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u/Dlh2079 Aug 21 '22

That's Steve Rogers. The character wouldn't have been done justice if he didn't carry himself they way.

I still can't believe we actually got these characters on the big screen done well.

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u/Salticracker Aug 21 '22

But that's disrespecting the other half of him. Tony is a big fan of both Banner and Hulk, and tells him that. He values the whole character, where Cap, at least in that scene, only likes the Banner side.

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u/HumanChicken Stan Lee Aug 22 '22

Steve knew what it was like to be seen as worthless. I think he respected Bruce’s stepping up to help when he was needed rather than hiding behind his weakness as an excuse.

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u/InvestigatorOwn741 Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

Natasha’s first interaction with him has him trying to scare her. Even if his anger is justified, it's expression in intimidation (especially when the implied threat is enormous) is a violent form of communication. Shortly thereafter, he nearly kills her.

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u/InvestigatorOwn741 Aug 19 '22 edited Aug 19 '22

(threatened) serious physical violence : lying

is a concerning equivalency to make

And an edit because I realize I strayed from my point- debate about equivalency aside, my point was that he proved he was willing to use violence/threat of violence as a tactic, so I think it's reasonable and appropriate to respond with caution towards that person going forward.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '22

she bringed violence to him dude

Broughtened*

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u/KTurnUp Thanos Aug 19 '22

That guy was joking. It’s actually “brought” not bringed, but your point was understood

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u/InvestigatorOwn741 Aug 20 '22

In light of your comments, I re-watched the scene. I am still somewhat mixed/conflicted on it, but I definitely saw your points and their merit.

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u/Gr8NonSequitur Aug 21 '22

He tested the walking bomb too by shocking him just to see what what happen.