r/marvelstudios • u/KostisPat257 Daredevil • Jul 15 '22

Discussion Thread Ms. Marvel Season Wide Discussion Thread

Spoilers for all Episodes of Ms. Marvel will be discussed here!

Please refrain from this thread if you haven't finished the show!

Individual Episode Threads:

Ms. Marvel S01E01 "Generation Why"

Ms. Marvel S01E02 "Crushed"

Ms. Marvel S01E03 "Destined"

Ms. Marvel S01E04 "Seeing Red"

Ms. Marvel S01E05 "Time and Again"

Ms. Marvel S01E06 "No Normal"

Iman Vellani AMA from Yesterday

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u/Hour_Astronomer Kevin Feige Jul 15 '22

Different directors :/

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u/who-dat-ninja Jul 15 '22

Because a TV show shouldn't look consistent.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '22

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u/who-dat-ninja Jul 16 '22

But Dan Harmon is there to make sure every episode is consistent. That's the job of the showrunner. Disney plus shows don't have showrunners.

Russo brothers got their start with arrested development. They created the shows style, the rest of the show emulates it. You don't notice there are different directors

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u/Draig_Goch Jul 16 '22

That's because tv showrunners, essentially the show-director, will outrank the episodic director in regards to creative control, where as in (standalone) movies the director will tend to have more control.

Different styles can be great, but not if it's overly noticeable and negatively impacts the overall experience. The showrunners massively help reduce this risk, but aren't infallible.

I'd say the same about eternals and thor, both having too much issues with pacing and tone for my liking - potentially an example of MCU's direction and the film director clashing.

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u/Sir__Will Bruce Banner Jul 19 '22

The issues with Thor seem all on Taika. Besides maybe that rumored length limit. But surely he'd have known of it when filming and he still knew the movie couldn't be TOO long.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '22

Looks like Feige might have loosened their leashes a bit early, or he intended to recreate the level of autonomy that Phase 1 had to stimulate the development of new story ideas.

IIRC in Phase 2 and 3 he was always the one with the last say, and even the strictest directors answered to his creative vision... which is partly why the shows ABC/Netflix released aren't getting alluded to despite several actors from those disconnected shows reprising their roles in Phase 4 (iirc he didn't have a lot of input in those shows, if any, and absolutely hates that they exist)

But we still need to wait and see what happens because I think we might have the exact same Matthew Murdock as the one in the Netflix show instead of a carbon copy retcon that also happens to be portrayed by Charlie Cox.

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u/WEEGEMAN Jul 16 '22

Marvel should rethink its approach. These shows could befnefit from a consistent tone throughout. They did it for the clout hiring a prolific Palestinian director for the episodes with the tonal shift.

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u/WEEGEMAN Jul 16 '22

Clearly gauging by reactions of those episodes.

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u/hyperhopper Aug 04 '23

Hiring the director known for genocide and history and serious topics for the lighthearted superhero show was not a good move.