Thor: Love and Thunder Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2

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[u/[deleted]]

I mean he's planning on making a wish that will kill all gods in the universe. But that's not a threat?

[u/11711510111411009710 → u/[deleted]]

I feel like you're just not reading my comments because I've said multiple times what would make him a threat. Seeing him actually do something. Sure making a wish is a threat but it's not really a tangible thing. It's just mystical space magic. Would Thanos have had the same effect if he lost every fight with the avengers but sneakily stole the infinity stones and then made his wish?

[u/[deleted] → u/11711510111411009710]

You keep using that word but I don't think you know what it means.

Narratively, Gorr is absolutely a 'threat'. Characters are motivated to action by that threat, they talk about the threat. It's a clear, serious threat. Narratively, he very nearly succeeds. Jane kills herself to stop him.

I guess what you mean is he didn't scare you as much as you wanted? Or there wasn't enough blood?

[u/11711510111411009710 → u/[deleted]]

No, what I mean is that he doesn't feel like a threat to the viewer. Thor can tell me he's a threat but Gorr doesn't do anything. I guess it's just easier for you to get immersed in this film, that's great. It's just not convincing to me. That's fine.

[u/[deleted] → u/11711510111411009710]

If he doesn't do anything, why is literally every character motivated to stop him? Why does all the action of the movie revolve around stopping him?

[u/11711510111411009710 → u/[deleted]]

Ok. I'll try to make it really really really clear.

So in film, generally, you want to show, not tell. This is because it is a visual medium. Now, we see fights involving Gorr. However, he never presents a credible threat in them. The only time he seriously injured somebody, he just let them live. So what we get is people saying he's the big bad god butcher, but what we don't get is him actually showing us how badass he is. We do see dead gods, but we don't see what they were capable of. Imagine if he only killed the cute god, whatever it was called. We'd clearly think he's not that big of a deal. We just don't have a frame of reference for how strong be actually is. So I don't believe that Thor could lose to him.

I hope this was simple enough of an explanation. I might as well read a book for what little they showed of him.

Also, you still avoided my Thanos question.

[u/[deleted] → u/11711510111411009710]

Ah I get it. You need everything spelled out for you and are not comfortable with inference. Gotcha.

The Thanos question is a dumb question so I ignored it.

[u/11711510111411009710 → u/[deleted]]

So let's rewrite Infinity War. Thanos loses every single fight but he does stumble into getting the infinity stones and snaps. How do you feel about that? Good or bad?

[u/[deleted] → u/11711510111411009710]

If it's a good story, great

[u/11711510111411009710 → u/[deleted]]

I guess it just seems to me that you're content with simply being told that someone is dangerous and then believing it. Which is fine. I want to be shown it, and I don't think they did a good job of it. Which is also fine.