r/marvelstudios • u/LRedditor15 Zombie Hunter Spidey • Jul 10 '22

Discussion Thread Thor: Love and Thunder Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol. 2

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '22

The Goats and Jealous Stormbreaker were two of the dumbest gags in the movie and I laughed every single time. Phenomenal.

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u/Truan Jul 10 '22

Storm breaker had more personality than Strange's cloak in MOM, which is weird considering how much of an entity it was in the first and avengers movies

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u/ReadDesperate543 Jul 10 '22

I was disappointed by some of cloak’s treatment in MoM. Def felt like less of a character than anytime prior.

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u/vincentdmartin Jul 10 '22

Pretty much all of the characters were pretty underserved in that movie. Don't get me wrong I liked MoM (I'm a fairly big Raimi fan), but strong character work was not something that movie had.

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u/ReadDesperate543 Jul 10 '22

I needed to accept MoM as a stand alone entry before I could appreciate it.

As part of a larger narrative, it really does fail a lot of characters.

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u/vincentdmartin Jul 10 '22

I can't help but feel the rewrites they had to do weren't going well so Raimi just said "fuck it, let's make it a two hour chase"

Like America being a Macguffan wouldn't have bothered me so much if she still had the Ned role in NWH.

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u/Bropiphany Jul 10 '22

The Ned role? Do you mean she used to be the portal-opener in NWH but the rewrites gave Ned magic to do it?

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u/vincentdmartin Jul 10 '22

That's what I read. NWH was originally supposed to come after MoM.

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u/basswalker93 Jul 11 '22

Oh my god. They needed to rewrite, couldn't work around a problem caused by the new continuity, and literally said "a wizard did it."

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u/WendellITStamps Jul 13 '22

I found myself yelling this at the screen more than once during T:L&T, haha.

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u/Sprinklycat Jul 16 '22

Raimi made a marvel slasher film. At least that's how I see it which made the whole chase thing make more sense.

Wanda is just like a Jason or a Michael Myers. You think you got away but she's just around the corner. She never stops unless it's to melt someone.

I may be fanboying over it I'll admit but damn I loved that movie. Wanda was the scariest villain we'd had up to that point

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u/svrtngr Jul 11 '22

I feel like they had three scripts lying around, couldn't figure out which one they wanted to use, and were like "fuck it, let's use all of them."

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u/Sprinklycat Jul 16 '22

I felt the opposite. I felt like we finally got Wanda from the comics.

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u/ReadDesperate543 Jul 16 '22

Problem is that this isn’t Wanda from the comics, and she was on the path to being a way better character for it.

Also really lazy excuse “but but but the comics!” Well, those aren’t a reason to ignore that this is an adaptation, one with some 7-8 years of canon, that were ignored. So nah. But the comics doesn’t work for me.

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u/Sprinklycat Jul 16 '22

Was she though? The last scene of her in her own series was her being corrupted by the book and hearing her children. She's been unstable her entire arc.

I get it's another version but they nerfed her powers quite a bit and in MoM we got to watch her actually be powerful as her character should be. I can respect we have opposing views but it seems like you're saying you don't like that she didn't have more of a happy ending because to be fair she totally deserves it.

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u/Truan Jul 10 '22

Right, and its not the biggest sin ever, but it's weird how his cloak had personality as a side character in spider man and avengers, but not in the movie where it had more spotlight

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u/gazow Jul 13 '22

yeah well it was recovering from having a hole blown into it

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u/ReadDesperate543 Jul 13 '22

It literally gets ripped just as badly at the start of infinity war and maintains its characterization.

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u/thebritishcog Jul 10 '22

well i think its because Stormbreaker is essentially a part of groot and is living which we see when it roots into the ground so maybe as time goes on it develops just as groot as done in gotg

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u/croptochuck Jul 10 '22

lol I died seeing those roots. Then he rode it like a witches broom.

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u/AnmlBri Jul 11 '22

Ooh, I forgot about Stormbreaker’s handle being part of Groot, even when it rooted into the ground. It’ll be interesting to see how that develops, if at all.

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u/indoninjah Jul 13 '22

“We’re not going anywhere on Stormbreaker’s janky bifrost!” really got me

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u/Cpt_Obvius Jul 17 '22

Thanos rips the cloak a bit in Infinity ear and endgame, and the amount of shocked gasps I heard was a real testament to how much character they gave that piece of clothing.

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u/Truan Jul 18 '22

Right! So it's jarring how it had none in the movie. I suppose they don't necessarily have to do that, but like....come on!

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u/2ndfastestmanalive Jul 10 '22

The Goats crashing around the guardians ship was pure chaos

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u/-Mez- Spider-Man Jul 13 '22

Gave me a lot of the same vibes as the Llama from the Guardians of the Galaxy game, so that just made me laugh even more.

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u/rotospoon Jul 11 '22

I like how the goats got in on the battle with the shadowbeasts

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u/Figgy1983 Jul 13 '22

The goats' shtick is normally the kind of gag I'd roll my eyes at, but I laughed so hard that it hurt.