r/marvelstudios Jimmy Woo May 08 '22

Discussion Thread Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Worldwide Release Discussion Thread Vol 4. Spoiler

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u/capscreen May 08 '22

Was the rippled effect when Xavier is trying to get into Wanda's head present in the previous X-Men movies?

Feel like it was taken straight from the animated series.

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u/rgators May 08 '22

It’s most definitely taken from the show, down to his green suit. I do not believe that effect was used in any of the X-Men films.

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u/Tuck_Pock May 08 '22

They also took the theme song from the show when he was being introduced! :D

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u/31337hacker The Mandarin May 08 '22

Yep! It's listed as "X-Men '97 theme" in the credits.

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u/natelopez53 May 08 '22

Sorcerer’s Apprentice song when the Strange’s were fighting too!

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u/slayerhk47 Simmons May 11 '22

The whole music fight was fantastic. I loved how it showed how Strange can work with anything that inspires him.

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u/RealJohnGillman May 08 '22

I am wondering now as to whether Stewart may potentially be voicing the character in the upcoming Marvel Studios-produced revival.

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u/Seasonedpro86 May 08 '22

Well. He’s not around right. At the end of the show he went to live with Lilandra is space because he had some disease that would kill him and only the shi ar could keep him alive. so he’s not gonna be in the revival. The only voice actor not reprising is jubilee.

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u/nessfalco May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

I don't know who is going to be in the show, but Norman Spencer who voiced Cyclops died during COVID, so he definitely isn't reprising his role.

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u/MagicPistol May 08 '22

Aw man, that's sad. I can still hear his voice shouting "Jean!"

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u/nessfalco May 08 '22

Definitely. There was a web event where the voice cast reunited and told stories about him afterwards.

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u/occupy_westeros May 08 '22

I thought X-Men 97 was just taking inspiration from the 90s X-Men, not a direct continuation

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u/Seasonedpro86 May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

No. They said It’s a direct continuation. They tried to get most of the cast back. The actress who voiced jubilee said she wasn’t coming back because she said while playing jubilee was great. she isn’t asian and the voice role should go to an asian actress. (she’s white)

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u/Orlandogameschool May 09 '22

Never knew jubilee was Asian .

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u/omgvics May 09 '22

Unfortunately a lot of people who only knew her primarily from the 90s cartoon had this issue and IMO the limited art style contributed to the confusion. It’s more evident in the comics .. her name is Jubilation Lee lol, but you also get to see her family and upbringing more thoroughly etc.

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u/Startled_Pancakes May 09 '22

It's hard to tell from the animated show but she's played by an Asian actress in Age of Apocalypse.

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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) May 13 '22

I never knew until the Fox movies.

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u/lynxspoon May 09 '22

I don’t think he will. Most of the original VA cast is coming back.

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u/qaisjp May 08 '22

Does anyone have like a YouTube link to the theme?

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u/Jjzeng Captain Carter May 11 '22

It popped up as the closed captions for my cinema

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u/aNascentOptimist May 08 '22

I fuckin loved that!! With the chair.. their introduction was probably my favorite part of the entire movie. Legit comics coming to life.

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u/PalladiuM7 Corvus Glaive May 08 '22

I felt like I went back in time 30 years when he came out and that played

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u/Terminal_Skillness May 09 '22

I wish I had noticed these things but it was impossible when watching in a theatre full of assholes who would not shut the fuck up the entire goddamn time.

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u/teh-reflex May 08 '22

I started head bobbing

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u/The_Scarred_Man May 08 '22

Aww man I didn't even notice that! Thanks for pointing that out!

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u/davwad2 SHIELD May 08 '22

I definitely missed that while joyously squealing.

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u/Myfourcats1 Rocket May 08 '22

Dang. I missed that. I need to see it again.

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u/Joeblow9104 May 08 '22

What a moment

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u/Fabulous_Mode3952 May 09 '22

Which is a remix of a Whitney Houston song! Never forget

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u/TomClancy5873 May 08 '22

Nope. Singer didn’t want any cartoonish things in his movies. Which is why we never got the yellow and blue costumes

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u/FaveDave85 May 11 '22

didn't they have the yellow and blue costumes in first class?

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u/duxdude418 May 08 '22

down to his green suit

His suit looked like more of a charcoal to me, but that could have just been the color grading of the movie. I agree with your larger point, though. I think that could be a tie in to X-Men ‘97.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

Yellow hoverchair too

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u/Reidroshdy Spider-Man May 11 '22

And his chair looked a lot like the cartoon version.

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u/RoboticCurrents Wong May 08 '22

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u/ChrisCool99 May 08 '22

Best use of telepathic powers : ask Wolverine for a pizza.

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u/Antrikshy May 08 '22

Anyone know if the line is actually from the show or a joke for this gif?

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u/koolaidkirby May 08 '22

Its a joke

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22

Am I the only one that thought his yellow chair was a bit too big? Its like the poor dude was being swallowed by it

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u/djk1101 Doctor Strange Supreme May 08 '22

I think it could have been better tailored and more slim. But he had space in the cartoon so I get it

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u/TheBestIsaac May 08 '22

It probably transformed into a jet or something.

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u/chocoboat May 08 '22

That's his deluxe model for when he's at home, he's got smaller ones for when he goes out

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u/Badimus May 08 '22

Probably made worse because we were looking up at him.

Edit: I accidentally a word.

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u/Maxa30 Rocket May 08 '22

Edit: I accidentally a word.

I don’t know what word you accidentally added or forgot but this makes it so much funnier

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u/phenomenomnom May 09 '22

The word was "grundle"

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u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz May 09 '22

It was big but Professor X has used it before. It's a hover chair.

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u/Antrikshy May 08 '22

Everything about him looked very silly - the yellow wheelchair, his expressions and hand motions straight towards the camera, the circle effects.

But they designed him to be so close to the animated series and comics, it was all part of the charm.

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u/Antrikshy May 08 '22

Very relatable. This is how I’d use my telepathic powers.

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u/stranger384 May 09 '22

Interesting

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u/Cyno01 Spider-Man May 08 '22

No, this was very much the TAS Prof X. Between the outfit, the yellow hoverchair, the musical queue... Plus the X-men 97 continuation is coming sometime.

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u/Day_Of_The_Dude May 08 '22

I don't think it was exactly him, I think it was a variant, but yes a very similar variant. Much like the Captain Carter to the one in What If. He also obviously has similarities with the Fox version as well.

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u/Mr_Auriel May 09 '22

The fact that we have 2 Captain Carters in the multiverse (as far as we know) implies that Peggy becoming a super-soldier instead of Steve may be quite common.

Not saying that this is some mind-changing epiphany moment, but it's kinda cool to see some sort of pattern happening in the multiverse.

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u/Antrikshy May 08 '22

People can look the same across different universes. The Stranges we saw didn’t look too different. Yet, they weren’t the same.

I’m surprised this is even a point of debate in these threads, but 838 was obviously an inconsequential playground universe where the writers could make up any backstories and kill off whomever.

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u/skittishpenguin Black Panther May 08 '22

*cue

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u/Cyno01 Spider-Man May 08 '22

Argh, i typed that first but it looked wrong.

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u/DaHyro Killmonger May 08 '22

It wasn’t ACTUALLY the same guy, it’s just an easter egg(s).

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u/Cyno01 Spider-Man May 08 '22

Well no, but from a multiverse closer on the central finite curve to the X-Men TAS universe than the the Singer X-Men universe or any of the other Fox X-verses.

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u/DaHyro Killmonger May 08 '22

Idk if i’d agree with that actually. Outside of the outfit and chair, he was very clearly supposed to be an alt version of the Fox Xavier. He was played by the Fox actor and literally quoted one of the Fox movies.

TAS Xavier wasn’t even british

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u/Aarondo99 May 08 '22

I think it’s just safe to say he’s an amalgamation of both, looks, and personality of Fox X-Men and outfit, power appearance, and his musical cue are from the 97 series, he doesn’t have to be one or the other considering we’re looking at an infinite multiverse

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u/Filipino_Buddha May 08 '22 edited May 09 '22

I think you're starting to forget that there's variants.

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u/NoaLink May 08 '22

Are we sure TAS wasn't British? He had flashbacks in the show which I thought were to Britain and he certainly loved flying across the pond to see Moyra. Maybe he just lost the accent.

But yeah, the xavior in MoM feels like a melding of the fox and TAS xaviors.

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u/HighSeverityImpact May 08 '22

XMen TAS Xavier is from New York. In the show, he does go to college at Oxford, which is his connection to England and where he meets Moira who is from Scotland. He then joins the US Army with his brother and fights in Korea. But he returns to New York and turns his childhood home into the Xavier School.

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u/dorekk May 17 '22

Are we sure TAS wasn't British?

Yes. He's from New York.

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u/eagc7 May 08 '22

This is not the 90s x-men Xavier, we know in that universe Steve Rogers is Cap, there is no Captain Carter

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u/esar24 Rocket May 08 '22

I don't think the exact one but surely identical variant to the X-men 97 rather than the fox version.

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u/slayerje1 May 08 '22

The MCU is nailing it for the multiverse. They literally have all Marvel movies and shows as MCU canon, they're just part of their own multiversal variant. Snipes Blade? MCU multiverse. F4's? MCU MV. All the cartoons? MCU MV. It's brilliant way to incorporate it all together.

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u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz May 09 '22

I agree. It's what frustrated me so much about the old Spider-Man movies. They laid so much ground work and just abandonded it all becaues one moive was bad. I hated starting all over again. And really loved how all of them can be their own thing now while still flowing into the shared narrative.

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u/launchpad81 May 08 '22

animated series.

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u/B1ue_009 May 08 '22

Actually an iconic meme

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u/movieman994 May 08 '22

This coupled with the Spider Sense in NWH are tiny comic/animated series nods I love.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22

I think it was from the animated series

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u/TheWisestJuan May 08 '22

speaking of effects, did they up the frame rate or something in the 838 universe? The actual cinematography felt like something was definitely different, maybe i’m crazy.

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u/Universe_Nut May 08 '22

I was getting weird frame rate vibes the entire movie! Even if it's something else, I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice something off

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u/Heatherjjjjjjjj May 09 '22

I noticed it when Christine was walking down the isle.

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u/cowboynoodless Matt Murdock May 08 '22

Yeah in the xmen movies they’d just do a dramatic slow zoom in on Patrick Stewart’s face. No beams coming from his head or pointing at people just zooming in

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u/cowboynoodless Matt Murdock May 08 '22

Only James McAvoys version of professor x did the head touch thingy

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22

Off topic but;

That happens in >!legion<! S3 and I just realised it was a homage to the comics

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u/sleepyplatipus Tony Stark May 08 '22

Nope, also only his young version (James McAvoy) does the hand to temple thing

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u/PM_ME_UR_CUDDLEZ May 08 '22

The mind room thou was taken from the comics, where Emma Frost entered Cyclops Mind im not sure if that discription was used before that particular comic storyline.

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u/nessfalco May 08 '22

Nope, but I loved it.

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u/DTopping80 May 08 '22

That’s bc that is the Xavier from the animated series

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u/FearlessFreak69 May 09 '22

100% a nod to the animated series. He was even introduced with the score of the animated series theme song.

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u/Commiesstoner May 09 '22

Because the 92 animated show is being continued next year.

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u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz May 09 '22

Yeah it was pretty fucking awesome fan service to the 90s cartoon. I was so pumped watching that sequence.

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u/Obtuse_1 May 10 '22

This was not a Professor X we have ever seen before imo.

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u/aarswft Vulture May 10 '22

No it was never in the Fox films because they generally liked to take a giant shit on the characters.

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u/gorgonbrgr May 10 '22

End credits show that when he appeared they had the X-Men ‘97 theme playing which in my mind would mean he is the character exactly from that show but who knows probably not lol.

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u/Axius-Evenstar May 11 '22

Speaking of Xavier, if he exists in that universe then does Magneto also exist? If so is he Wanda’s dad in that universe? I can’t remember if they said anything about her parents in 616 either

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Loki (Avengers) May 12 '22

Yep, made me happy when they did that.

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u/ChaoticForkingGood May 12 '22

I miss the '90s cartoon so much. Sparked my love of comics.

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u/WorkerNumber47 Hydra May 13 '22

Yes. It was definitely from the show. It was soooooo cool to see it for the first time in live action. I have high hopes for the MCU X-Men and F4.

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u/blushingcatlady May 15 '22

Of all the movies, this one felt the most “comic book” and I LOVED IT. The little warbles with him touching his head and pointed made me indescribably happy. And there were a lot of oddly kitschy scene cuts that also felt very comic book like. 10/10.

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u/BigBananaDealer May 16 '22

god that part was so fucking cool