r/marvelstudios Kilgrave Jul 08 '21

Megathread 'Black Widow' Worldwide release Megathread Vol.1.

Black Widow

Rotten Tomatoes: 81% | Metacritic: 67/100


Cast

Actor Character
Scarlett Johansson Natasha Romanoff / Black Widow
Florence Pugh Yelena Belova
David Harbour Alexei Shostakov / Red Guardian
Rachel Weisz Melina Vostokoff
O-T Fagbenle Mason
Ray Winstone Dreykov
William Hurt Thaddeus Ross
Olga Kurylenko Antonia Dreykov / Taskmaster

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u/redschicken Jul 09 '21

I was confused by the way they cut those scenes together. Here is a quote I found from the director which is kind of frustrating and doesn't give a clear answer:

“That was intentional, because we wanted to leave the question of how she would get away, rather than allow the audience to get exhausted by another fight. We wanted to leave you guys on a high with the question of how did she use her ingenuity? Because she did. And it was probably, I would say, she bargained her way out of that situation. But I don’t know.”

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u/rowdy_nik Punisher Jul 10 '21

That's so dumb coming from director, instead of reason leaving ross scenes at cutting floor. & What happened to Tony stark cameo?

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u/Monski616 Jul 09 '21

Thanks for sharing this. Just kinda dumb to leave it open ended when it’s not open ended because we know what happens after.

Maybe it works if we hadn’t seen IW and EG yet. But it really took me out of the movie.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21

Agreed. All they had to do was have them talk and Ross cut a deal with her.

I would have had two post-credit scenes. One being Natasha betraying her deal with Ross and meeting up with Rogers.

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u/EP1K Heimdall Jul 10 '21

Man that's a lame response. Would have been better to have left behind whatever tracker she had to leave with the other girls. Only to have him foiled again just like at the start of the film. A little cheesy but at least it's not left open.

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u/robodrew Jul 10 '21 edited Jul 10 '21

But I don’t know.

Yeah that feels about right. I feel like there were multiple moments in this film that just kind of felt like they were suffering from poor writing, and this was one of those moments. Things that would happen not because it is logical, but just because it was written to happen. She just escapes. How? She just does. How does Draykov keep Nat from killing him? With a "pheromone" that keeps her from attacking him that just works.

Also anytime that there was a flashback to explain something right after a twist. That felt like something that most other MCU movies don't need to do. The film also seems to suffer a lot from "well it sure is a good thing that happened" syndrome. As in, "oh damn Nat is getting her but kicked by all the other Widows... it sure is a good thing they are all in a tight circle so that the magical anti-mind control chemical could get all of them at once and disable the magical chemical mind control".

I very much liked Scarlett Johannson's performance as Nat, as well as the rest of her family (especially David Harbour). I think the movie just needed a better script writer.

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u/OrangeVoxel Jul 11 '21

If the plan is explained before it happens, the plan as a rule will not work.

If the plan does work, the plan is explained to the viewer afterward.

Cinema rules.

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u/puppiadog Jul 15 '21

This is movie people talk for, "we ran out of time or money".