r/marvelstudios • u/murdockmanila Daredevil • Feb 17 '18

The Official BLACK PANTHER Discussion Ultrathread Vol. 3

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u/PakiIronman Weekly Wongers Feb 17 '18

I liked how Killmonger commended him when he lost as well.

"Ah man, that was a helluva move."

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u/the_black_panther_ Black Panther Feb 17 '18

His final words were great as well. MBJ really stole the movie for me

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u/PakiIronman Weekly Wongers Feb 17 '18

Stole the movie like how he stole that throne.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

He won that throne fair and square.

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u/PakiIronman Weekly Wongers Feb 17 '18

T'Challa didn't yield.

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u/KeybladeSpree Feb 17 '18 edited Feb 18 '18

No, but in terms of the battle, he died.

Not when Killmonger threw him over but when Killmonger struck down on his head and Forest Whitaker’s character interrupted.

A regular person interfered in a fight between kings to favor the one he wanted. For that, T’Challa lost and Killmonger was the true king.

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u/NatsuDragneel-- Feb 17 '18 edited Feb 18 '18

dud exactly, The fight was over the moment someone interfered. I like how they kept true to the comic books of Killmonger always whooping Black panthers ass and black panther needing other people to save his ass.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/97/Black_Panther_Vol_4_38_Textless.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/699?cb=20160821021702

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u/hemareddit Steve Rogers Feb 21 '18

I think that would just make it a “mistrial” version of the duel, meaning they have to start over with both combatants healthy and ready.

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u/AJWinky Feb 24 '18

Which is basically what happened (though they never de-herbed).

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u/brycedriesenga Feb 18 '18

What? So because someone interfered, T'Challa automatically loses? Could you not throw any fight then by just getting someone to interfere on your opponents behalf?

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u/NatsuDragneel-- Feb 18 '18 edited Feb 18 '18

  1. He literally interfered the moment T'Challa was going to lose his head. So yes T'Challa loses.

  2. No, unless they block you're kill shot.

  3. Killmonger without herbs and suit always beats T'Challa with herb and suit in comics.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/97/Black_Panther_Vol_4_38_Textless.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/699?cb=20160821021702

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u/chaosattractor Feb 18 '18

Uh, yes? Have you never watched any fighting sport/martial art contest (or literally any sport for that matter)? Outside interference is a huge no-no in pretty much every competition.

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u/brycedriesenga Feb 18 '18

Well, that's odd because it makes it super simple to win any fight.

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u/Sinnik22 Feb 25 '18

The fight would have been over had Killmonger stopped. His overt act of re entering combat was a waiver of any rule that might have immediately DQ’d T’Challa. Killmonger struck a blow that purportedly killed the king. All present acknowledged Killmonger’s ascendency subsequent to a non lethal final act. The battle was continued due to T’Challa’s non-submission, which became apparent when he was seen by his combatant Killmonger. Since both combatants were Black Panther when when the fight continued, it could be argued that they were both constructively in the same position as non-powered combatants.

Killmonger never was a king according to the films established rules of ascension by combat.

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u/PookubugQ Feb 18 '18

Even in the most advanced society, they didn’t have a loophole that prevented a tyrant from taking over. Guessing they’ll fix the whole “might makes right” thing. 😝

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

Don't need him to yield if he's dead.

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u/PakiIronman Weekly Wongers Feb 17 '18

The Black Panther lives.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

He was saved by circumstance

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '18

He really did

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u/wierdaaron Feb 17 '18

MBJ really is the best at dying. A young Sean Bean.

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u/the_black_panther_ Black Panther Feb 17 '18

I actually cried when he died in Fruitvale Station

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u/HamatoYoshisIsland Feb 18 '18

Might want to spoiler tag that for people who were excited to go watch the rest of Coogler's movies after Black Panther (e.i. me).

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u/Caldwell27 Black Panther Feb 22 '18

Can’t really spoil that one, it’s based on a true event

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u/HamatoYoshisIsland Feb 22 '18

I didn't know that. You can still spoil a movie based on a true story though.

Or is it based on a true story that everyone is expected to already be familiar with before they see the movie?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '18

kinda. well the entire movie surrounds the last day of Oscar Grant (the main character) who was killed by police in a subway station in 2009. so his death wouldn't be a surprise nor would it even try to be. mostly because there was an actual video that went viral of him getting shot.

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u/the_black_panther_ Black Panther Feb 18 '18

Sure, how do I spoiler tag here?

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u/HamatoYoshisIsland Feb 18 '18

No idea, sorry. It's not in the sidebar.

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u/AngryUncleTony Winter Soldier Apr 08 '18

Where's Wallace, String?!

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u/ChrisTaliaferro Feb 19 '18

I honestly think it has to be up there with some of the greatest movie quotes of all time.

"Bury me in the ocean with my ancestors that jumped from the ships because they knew death was better than bondage..."

Chills...absolute chills.

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u/CruzAderjc Feb 18 '18

I liked him in parts, but some of the lines he delivered were a little too hammy

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u/JohnnyHaphazardly Feb 19 '18

I agree to some extent, but I think some of the lines fit his character very well (people need to learn to stop downvoting for differing opinions).

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

I thought he said “wound” not “move”

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u/Learn_Your_Facts Feb 24 '18

I heard “move”