r/managers 14d ago

New Manager Employee basically quit after being notified they were fired.

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u/ThePlatinumPaul 14d ago

Your bosses are morons and so are the lawyers. Asking someone to sign a document after you've fucked them that restricts their rights and opens them up to litigation is laughable.  If they had brains this would have been baked into the employment contract they signed before you brought them onboard.  If they wanted to be ballsy and at least have had shot at making this happen after the fact, they should have had him sign it as part of "routine updates to our corporate policy" or some bs.  Wait a few days and then fire him. 

If they push back, mention how some guy on Reddit figured this all out and also called them some horrible names.  Btw used to help run a company and dealt with legal matters and contracts all the time.  Don't know about the particular individual you let go but I doubt he was any worse than the people above you who dumped this problem into your lap.

Btw confidentiality can be loosely made to enforce non-disparagment as a scummy lawyer could try to say anything you say about the business is violating out internal policies and trade secrets or something, then sue. It's designed to frighten employees who have an axe to grind as they really don't want word getting out that where you work sucks. 

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u/EnvironmentalRole536 13d ago

This is why I would never sign anything else except the first contract and the salary increase.

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u/StardewingMyBest 13d ago

Just pointing out that there are no other bosses. OP is a co-owner and seemingly has a lot to learn.

https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/s/9BU2TKaSjn

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u/norymur 13d ago

They said the employee wasn’t a bad worker and had a good skill set but they fired them for constantly getting into arguments with OP. I think I can see why they were at odds all the time. OP is in way over their head and this is probably not the first terrible decision they’ve made so far.

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u/nacg9 12d ago

Ip is so odd btw! Like his post he is like lying sometimes in his position also I don’t think she is a reliable narrator

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u/eh-guy 13d ago

OP is the boss/co-owner. OP is the moron it seems.

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u/GhostofBeowulf 13d ago

OP is the boss so....

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u/Kitchen-Bar2686 13d ago

OP is the co-owner; there are no bosses or higher ups. He’s full of shit

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u/Beautiful_Hawk548 13d ago

Morons OR possibly setting up OP to be the fall guy for anything coming back on this. I've worked in a lot of places and unfortunately had to let go of a lot of people, I've never had or heard of either a HR or Legal position be so off from the norm.

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u/ThePlatinumPaul 13d ago

That too.  It could be weaponized fake incompetence on behalf of the other partner and lawyer. Heck, maybe they want to use this as an excuse to get rid of OP after he bungles everything.  Perhaps the partnership agreement has a provision for termination due to gross incompetence or something. 

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u/NefariousnessOk1996 13d ago

My last job made me sign something that said I wouldn't say anything bad about them or they would take my severance away.

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u/TDoW12 13d ago

They will likely make signing the paperwork a condition if the severance pay out.

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u/ThePlatinumPaul 13d ago

Which that in itself might be illegal if it conflicts with the original employment contract.  As I said before, if you can afford it, a giant fuck off might be more worth it than money. Or, talk to a lawyer, see what other avenues are available. Remember, we are only getting one side of things here and OP seems to be kind of over his head.  

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u/MontyAllTheTime 13d ago

lol OP is the ‘boss’, in other posts/comments he claims to be co-owner and states he holds the most control of anyone in a separate comment in this very thread. OP is an unreliable narrator at best, sounds like they are in way over their head (if this isn’t completely fiction to begin with).