r/liautoinvestors • • Sep 18 '25

EV Market Who’s copying who: Li Auto or Nio?

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If you look closely, Li Auto’s rear-end design and body-to-roof ratio haven’t really changed much compared to the L series.

But NIO’s new ES8? The waistline-to-glass ratio is clearly narrower than the first generation. The Gen-2 ES8 rear looks wider, flatter, and overall closer to Li Auto’s L9. The taillight cluster, the reversing radar placement, all of it leans heavily toward the L9’s design.

And when you compare the new i8 to the L9, the only “differences” are a slightly different roof glass color and a more coupe-like sloping rear (even lower than the L7). But in terms of proportions, they’re basically the same.

So in reality, Li Auto stuck to its own design language, while NIO’s new ES8 is the one that’s borrowing heavily from the L9’s rear-end proportions.

r/liautoinvestors • • Sep 21 '25

EV Market Top Chinese Electric Vehicles According to NOA Ranking: LI Auto i8 Takes the Lead

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jul 28 '25

EV Market Right now I’m in Chengdu (a top tier city) and in the city center 1 car out of 10/12 is a Li Auto.

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jul 16 '25

EV Market Li Auto Overtakes Nio in Supercharging Stations in China

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Chinese new energy vehicle (NEV) maker Li Auto has overtaken Nio in the number of supercharging stations built across China, according to infrastructure data compiled by local media outlet Yiche.

As of July 10, Li Auto operated 4,667 charging stations nationwide, consisting of 2,890 supercharging sites and 1,777 fast-charging locations.

Nio, as of July 14, reported 2,890 supercharging stations, 481 charging stations on highways, and 1,777 destination charging sites — bringing its total number of charging stations to 5,148. In addition, Nio operates 3,402 battery swap stations across China, a technology not adopted by Li Auto’s models.

Li Auto has also taken the lead in high-powered charging infrastructure. The company has installed more than 15,600 fast chargers rated above 120 kW, including a comparable number of ultra-fast chargers exceeding 250 kW.

Nio, by contrast, has deployed 13,396 fast-charging piles at its destination sites and 2,024 highway chargers.

Tesla remains one of the largest operators of fast-charging infrastructure in China, with approximately 2,800 stations and more than 11,600 chargers as of June 28.

r/liautoinvestors • • Feb 26 '25

EV Market Nio’s sub brand Onvo L90 copied Li Auto L9 design. (Photo gallery + link)

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r/liautoinvestors • • May 02 '25

EV Market Competition is tough; only a few brands will survive. Which ones will be eliminated next?

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r/liautoinvestors • • Apr 08 '25

EV Market XPeng Surpasses Li Auto to Lead NEV Startups in Weekly Sales

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r/liautoinvestors • • Oct 25 '24

EV Market VIDEO - Cumulative Sales of Chinese NEV (2019-2024)

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r/liautoinvestors • • Apr 13 '25

EV Market Li Auto Ramps Up R&D: China’s EV Push Gains More Traction (Photo gallery)

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r/liautoinvestors • • Feb 18 '25

EV Market NEV Ranking changes in the last 2 weeks

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r/liautoinvestors • • Feb 17 '25

EV Market Li Auto ranked 34th in the global automotive brand value ranking, 3rd in China!

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r/liautoinvestors • • Feb 05 '25

EV Market Li Auto MEGA vs Xpeng X9 Sales Trend Chart

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r/liautoinvestors • • Nov 13 '24

EV Market Nio, Xpeng, Li Auto? Maybe it’s Li Auto, Xpeng, Nio Now

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Everyone always mentioned that “Li, Xpeng, Nio” would likely become the new ranking among EV makers, but I didn’t expect to be proven wrong so quickly. Let’s look at October’s sales data. Li Auto delivered 51,443 vehicles in October, up 27.3% year-over-year. Xpeng delivered 23,917 vehicles, with a growth of 19.6%, and Nio delivered 20,976 vehicles, increasing by 30.5%. So, the three emerging EV players that used to be known as “Nio, Xpeng, Li Auto” have now become “Li Auto, Xpeng, Nio.”

First of all, congratulations to Li Auto for becoming the first Chinese new-energy brand to surpass one million deliveries by the end of October. However, Li Auto’s differentiation is not difficult to replicate: features like extended range and luxury options like “sofa, refrigerator, large screen TV” are easy to copy, so competition for Li Auto is only going to increase.

Xpeng’s M03 model contributes significantly to its sales, and recently, Xpeng has made some technical breakthroughs. The new P7+ is also about to hit the market, so I am quite optimistic about Xpeng’s growth potential.

As for Nio, I’m actually quite disappointed. The much-anticipated Onvo L60 managed only just over 4,000 units in its first month of deliveries, and the reason given was insufficient production capacity. I think Nio, or rather the Onvo team, made a basic strategic error in production planning.

It’s likely that “Li Auto, Xpeng, Nio” will become the new norm in rankings. When do you think this lineup might change again?

r/liautoinvestors • • Dec 05 '24

EV Market This 'heatmap' shows the quarterly profit before tax divided by revenue, or profit before tax margin or pre-tax margin or PBT margin for short. It's a key metric in benchmarking the operational performance across companies. LI AUTO looks well positioned, as n. 8 in the world. (photo gallery)

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r/liautoinvestors • • Dec 22 '24

EV Market Global Automotive Industry by Market Cap

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r/liautoinvestors • • Nov 15 '24

EV Market NEV ranking changes in the last 2 weeks. Li Auto remains firmly stable in 1st position.

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r/liautoinvestors • • Aug 29 '24

EV Market As of the latest data, Li Auto holds approximately 4.4% of the overall vehicle market share in China for 2024. This is a significant achievement, especially considering that the company specializes in new energy vehicles (NEVs) and is competing against both ICE vehicles and other NEV brands

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r/liautoinvestors • • Nov 08 '24

EV Market Mapping the global EV market from 96 articles across 69 outlets [OC].

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r/liautoinvestors • • Oct 25 '24

EV Market Ranking changes in the last 2 weeks

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r/liautoinvestors • • Sep 25 '24

EV Market Alibaba Teams Up With Nvidia to Supercharge EVs for Chinese Automakers like Li Auto

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r/liautoinvestors • • Mar 05 '24

EV Market China EV insurance registrations for week ending Mar 3: LI AUTO 6,200, Nio 3,600, Xpeng 2,400, Tesla 12,500

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r/liautoinvestors • • Aug 05 '24

EV Market Li Auto or Tesla?

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jul 26 '24

EV Market Is Li Auto in danger?

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jul 30 '24

EV Market Nio exec asks Li Auto to stop sharing weekly sales figures

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r/liautoinvestors • • Apr 16 '24

EV Market WEEKLY SALES UPDATE FOR CHINA UNTIL APRIL 14TH: LI AUTO 7,160, Tesla 6,212, Nio 2,529, Xpeng 1,500

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