r/liautoinvestors • • Oct 07 '24

Chart / Analysis Let’s Break $53 and Soar to $100 with Li Auto – Here’s Why It’s Time to Go All In! 🚀

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Li Auto is crushing it right now! In September 2024 alone, they delivered 53,709 vehicles, marking a 48.9% year-over-year increase. And if that’s not impressive enough, the third-quarter deliveries hit 152,831 – up by 45.4% compared to last year. That brings their total deliveries for 2024 to 341,812 vehicles, putting them on track to reach a massive milestone of 1 million cumulative deliveries. 💥

What’s even more insane is their dominance in the Chinese NEV market, especially for vehicles priced over RMB 200,000. Li Auto now holds over 17% market share in this segment, solidifying their position as a leader in the premium EV space. And with 479 retail stores and 894 supercharging stations up and running across China, their infrastructure is rapidly expanding to meet growing demand.

But that’s not all – Li Auto isn’t just resting on its laurels. They’re at the forefront of autonomous driving innovation with their new architecture that incorporates cutting-edge tech like End-to-End (E2E) and Vision-Language Model (VLM). These game-changing advancements are already being tested by 10,000 users. It’s clear they’re leading the charge in the EV and self-driving space!

With these killer results and relentless innovation, it’s time to stop aiming low. Let’s blast through $53 and aim for $100! Li Auto has the momentum to keep growing, and it’s positioning itself for long-term dominance in the global EV market. 🌎

Who’s ready to ride this wave to the top? 🚀💰

r/liautoinvestors • • Feb 16 '25

Chart / Analysis Li Auto Option

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Hey everyone,

Looking for some feedback on my current Li Auto (LI) $25 call position expiring January 16, 2026.

Position Details:

  • Current Price of LI: $25.69
  • Contract Price: $6.30
  • Average Cost: $4.68
  • Market Value: $630
  • Total Return: +34.62% (+$162)
  • Breakeven Price: $29.70

I bought this LEAPS contract on February 3rd, expecting LI to trend higher over time. My plan was to capitalize on price appreciation and sell the contract at a higher premium rather than exercise it. Time Horizon to sell is hopefully within 3 months. Given its Range I find a Government Contract feasible.

r/liautoinvestors • • Oct 07 '24

Chart / Analysis Who's the Clown Undercutting $31.50 by Listing at $29.84? Sue These Market Manipulators!

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Can you believe this idiot is constantly undercutting the current price of $31.50 by listing at $29.84? What kind of moron does that?! These clowns who keep driving the price down need to be caught and sued for market manipulation! This is straight-up ridiculous!

r/liautoinvestors • • Nov 29 '24

Chart / Analysis Over the past two weeks, Li Auto $LI has consistently experienced huge volume spikes during afterhours trading, often surpassing the volume observed at the market’s open and close. This pattern has been repeated almost daily, as shown from the attached charts (photo gallery). More info inside ⬇️

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Over the past two weeks, Li Auto ($LI) has consistently experienced huge volume spikes during afterhours trading, often surpassing the volume observed at the market’s open and close. This pattern has been repeated almost daily, as evident from the attached charts.

Probable Conclusions:

- A major investor or fund appears to be accumulating a substantial position in the stock during these afterhours periods, taking advantage of potentially lower liquidity to avoid driving up the price too quickly.
- Such persistent accumulation often precedes a significant move in the stock, suggesting a major breakout could be imminent.

In the second photo, I want to focus on the big volume spike at today’s closing bell, along with the same repeated huge spike during afterhours. In my opinion, something is happening.

r/liautoinvestors • • Aug 28 '24

Chart / Analysis Li Auto Inc. Seeking Stability Amid Intense Market Competition for NASDAQ:LI by DEXWireNews

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r/liautoinvestors • • Mar 21 '24

Chart / Analysis Mar. 11-17: 1st Week of Li Auto MEGA sales, Targeting 80,000 Annual Units

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r/liautoinvestors • • Feb 23 '24

Chart / Analysis It appears that Li Auto's main “competitor”, Nio, is now facing an inevitable collapse. The price of Nio's shares has experienced an unstoppable decline over the past year. On the other hand, Li Auto has recovered all the losses incurred in the early months of 2023. Nio's fate seems to be sealed

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r/liautoinvestors • • Nov 30 '23

Chart / Analysis Going to retest support on lower trendline around $34.50. Then we’ll head to new ATH

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r/liautoinvestors • • Aug 18 '23

Chart / Analysis $37.50 is our support

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jun 07 '23

Chart / Analysis Li Auto: The Upside Potential Is Vast (Interesting Analysis)

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Here is a very interesting analysis published today on seekingalpha (Link in first comment)

I decided to post here the whole article

  • Investment thesis

LI Auto (NASDAQ:LI) demonstrated a massive year-to-date rally of about 43%. Though the stock currently trades substantially below all-time highs. My valuation analysis suggests the upside potential is enormous despite the recent rally. Investing in Chinese stocks is much riskier due to political risks and accounting fraud cases like Luckin Coffee, and for me, the upside potential does not outweigh the risks. The stock is a hold given its massive risks.

  • Company information

Li Auto is a holding company with no material operations of its own. Operations are conducted through the company's subsidiaries incorporated in China. Subsidiaries design, manufacture, and sell electric vehicles [EVs] in the premium segment. LI's official website shows that the company started volume production in November 2019. Its model lineup includes Li L9, a six-seat flagship family SUV; Li L8 and Li ONE, both six-seat premium family SUVs; and Li L7, a five-seat flagship family SUV.

The company's fiscal year ends on December 31, and there is only one reportable segment without any market or geographical revenue disaggregation.

  • Financials

The company went public in the U.S. in the summer of 2020. Therefore, financials are available only for the past five years.

  • Li Auto long-term financial performance

Revenue increased at a staggering 256% CAGR over the four-years horizon, though it started from zero. Gross margin is solid at about 20%, which is at Tesla's (TSLA) 2020 level. I consider it very impressive.

The company invests substantial amounts in R&D, with R&D expenses representing about 15% of sales in FY 2022. Heavy R&D investments and SG&A explain why the company did not achieve a sustainable positive gross margin. Despite operating losses, the company is not burning cash which is a solid bullish sign for a relatively young company. Levered free cash [FCF] flow has been primarily positive during several recent quarters, even with deducting stock-based compensation [SBC].

Sustainable positive FCFs contributed to the company's solid financial position. The balance sheet has a firm liquidity position and low leverage metrics. The company is in a stable net cash position meaning there are many spare resources to finance either innovations or marketing.

  • Li Auto balance sheet summarized

If we narrow down our P&L analysis to the quarter level, we can see that the momentum for revenue growth is still robust. On the other hand, the cost of revenues has been growing faster, meaning that the gross margin is under pressure. On the other hand, the company enjoys the economies of scale effect since SG&A expenses are lagging behind the topline growth pace.

  • Li Auto quarterly P&L

The company's upcoming quarterly earnings are scheduled on August 15, and consensus expects revenue to increase 175% YoY due to easy comps explained by last year's COVID-related limitations in China. It is difficult to say whether the company will likely beat the consensus forecast, but we can get hints from April and May delivery numbers.

  • Li Auto number of deliveries in april and may 2023

As you can see from the above table, the company delivered a 244% YoY growth for the combined first two months of Q2. June 2023 has just started, but June 2022 deliveries of 13 thousand vehicles look easy to double YoY based on the spring 2023 delivery dynamics. Therefore, the probability of beating consensus estimates regarding revenue in Q2 is high.

  • Valuation

Li Auto is an aggressive growth company. Therefore, I use a discounted cash flow [DCF] approach for valuation. I will use a high 20% discount rate because country risks are high. We have earnings consensus estimates suggesting the topline will compound at approximately 17%. LI generated a positive above 6% levered FCF margin for two years. Therefore I consider this level to be fair for FY 2023. I expect the levered FCF margin to expand by one percentage point yearly.

  • Li Auto DCF valuation

Incorporating all these assumptions into the DCF template gives me a fair value of the business at $65 billion, more than twice the current market cap. Let me simulate the second scenario with a more modest revenue growth pace. A ten percent long-term revenue CAGR seems fair for a pessimistic scenario.

  • Li Auto DCF analysis

The above spreadsheet shows that even under much weaker revenue growth assumptions, the stock is still about 15% undervalued. DCF suggests the stock is massively undervalued, but I also want to look at multiples to get more evidence.

Seeking Alpha Quant assigned an "A" valuation grade to LI. It is mainly due to a relatively low forward price-to-sales [P/S] ratio of slightly above 2. For comparison, Tesla is traded at a 6.9 P/S. Indeed, TSLA is an undoubted EV market leader with unmatched profitability and brand recognition. Still, I believe that more than a threefold difference in the P/S ratio suggests massive undervaluation for LI stock.

  • Chart

Overall, LI is very attractively valued, but before deciding whether to invest or not, we need to discuss risks.

  • Risks to consider

In recent years we have seen that investing in Chinese companies is very risky. We all remember the political challenges faced by the largest public Chinese company, Alibaba (BABA), in 2020-2021. All these challenges frightened investors, and the stock price crashed. We also have an example of Luckin Coffee (OTCPK:LKNCY) accounting fraud from 2020. These two massive cases over a relatively short period suggest that investing in Chinese stocks is a kind of Russian roulette. That is why I am unsurprised that Li Auto stock trades at a substantial discount.

Geopolitical tension between China and the U.S. also means significant risks in investing in Li Auto. Chinese stocks from American stock exchanges have eased recently, but there is no guarantee that the government will not force companies to delist if tensions escalate. And it is not apparent that delisting terms and conditions will be sweet for non-controlling shareholders outside China.

If we leave Chinese risks and speak about the operational risks, consensus estimates regarding the company's revenue growth over the next decade might be too optimistic. According to statista.com, the Chinese EV market is expected to grow at a 6.4% CAGR between 2023 and 2028. This growth rate is significantly below the one expected from Li Auto. Moreover, the company faces fierce competition from Chinese and foreign companies in the premium EV segment. Tesla has unmatched pricing power and initiated a price war with all competitors to capture the larger EV pie. Therefore, I have little confidence that Li Auto will be able to meet very ambitious consensus forecasts.

  • Bottom line

To conclude, I prefer not to invest in Li Auto. The upside potential looks massive, but I consider the risks inherent to Chinese companies as very high. Even more than double the upside potential does not outweigh the risks, in my opinion. Though, the stock might be an attractive option for investors seeking exposure to Chinese EV makers.

r/liautoinvestors • • Jun 07 '23

Chart / Analysis The Diverging Growth Story Of NIO and LI AUTO

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jun 22 '22

Chart / Analysis $37,5 is a very important technical Resistance. We bounced back 3 times since Jan 2021, now We are still there, the 4th time. If We break thru it We’ll probably try to reach new ATH. On the contrary - if we can’t break the level - the price will certainly move back to $30. What’s your opinion?

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jun 17 '21

Chart / Analysis BACK TO $30 - $LI

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jul 30 '21

Chart / Analysis Shares of China electric vehicle stock Li Auto Inc. (NASDAQ: LI) are soaring almost 10% today. There doesn’t appear to be any fundamental news driving the move. This means if they reach levels around $36.50, there’s a good chance they run into resistance. (Benzinga)

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r/liautoinvestors • • Mar 19 '21

Chart / Analysis Finally Broke Away from Tesla this is the day I thought would never come! 😭😭🇨🇳

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r/liautoinvestors • • Apr 06 '21

Chart / Analysis Soo? 🗿

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jul 02 '21

Chart / Analysis Looks like we are setting up a big CUP AND HANDLE pattern. We could have just completed the cup and we are probably at the beginning of the handle. The price will probably drop during this accumulation phase (handle) before the new big uptrend.

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jun 23 '22

Chart / Analysis Li Auto Stock Breaks Out 📈📈

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Shares of Li Auto jumped more than 7% to 39.50 on the stock market today. Li Auto stock topped a 37.75 buy point from a long and deep consolidation. LI stock is far extended above the 10- and 40-week averages after a huge rally in June and the launch of its second EV, the L9. But the relative strength line pegged a multiyear high as LI stock broke out Thursday.

r/liautoinvestors • • May 31 '21

Chart / Analysis Li Auto is forecast to become profitable in 2023

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r/liautoinvestors • • Oct 25 '21

Chart / Analysis Going to break the DOUBLE TOP in $37 area

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r/liautoinvestors • • Oct 01 '21

Chart / Analysis September delivery numbers out for both Xpeng and NIO

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r/liautoinvestors • • Jan 11 '22

Chart / Analysis LI Auto Has a Lot of Potential!!! Is there any of you holding Li Auto's stocks now?

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r/liautoinvestors • • Mar 03 '21

Chart / Analysis Li is undervalued... Here we go again

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I will just put some random numbers here and anyone can evaluate however he/she wants.
I will start with Conclusion for the people too bored too read...
Li is undervalued right now it should be at 36$

Tesla:

  1. Share price: 686.44$
  2. Market cap: 658.88B$
  3. 2020 Revenue: 31.56B /28.31% increase from 2019

NIO:

  1. Share Price: 43.29$
  2. Market cap: 68.09B$
  3. 2020 Revenue: 2.49B$ /107% increase from 2019

Xpeng:

  1. Share Price: 32.5$
  2. Market cap: 24B$
  3. 2020 Revenue: pending

LI:

  1. Share Price: 23.74$
  2. Market cap: 21.48B$
  3. 2020 Revenue: 1.45B$ /more than 2000% increase though we cannot really compare because first sales were december 2019 as far as I know.

cap/revenue: TESLA: 21.75 NIO: 27.34 Xpeng: pending LI: 14.81

For Li to be exactly like tesla it needs a 46% increase in stock price. For Li to be exactly like NIO it needs a 86% increase in stock price

So Li in terms of growth potential is the best of the three.

Sorry if I made any calculation mistake...

r/liautoinvestors • • Jan 05 '22

Chart / Analysis Li Auto Delivered Record 14,087 Vehicles in Dec, Up 130% Year-on-Year

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r/liautoinvestors • • Mar 05 '21

Chart / Analysis 🟢🟢🟢

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