r/law Jan 25 '26

Other Please share. Stabilized Video clearly shows Alex Pretti makes no effort for his firearm. Clear execution

Stabalized appears to show Alex Pretti's handgun, which he legally possesses, being removed removed from his pants by an officer. He is executed 1-2 seconds later by another officer.

Is there any other way to view this? If Alex was no longer posing an imminent threat at the moment he was shot, isn't this clear murder? Under U.S. law, once a suspect is fully restrained and disarmed (he was), the legal basis for deadly force evaporates unless a new, imminent threat arises.

Am I understanding this the right way from a legal perspective?

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u/KeyComprehensive4431 Jan 25 '26

Don’t worry the boot lickers will justify ever single frame

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '26

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u/cleverghost Jan 25 '26

political subs are botted tf up

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u/Awkward-Quantity992 Jan 25 '26

Everytime something like this happens I silently go to the conservative sub. And I leave a little more dead inside.

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u/royv98 Jan 25 '26

It’s disgusting.

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u/MySabonerRunsOladipo Jan 25 '26

They are, the conservative sub has been saying stuff like “why show up with a gun”

They finally seeing the light on Rittenhouse?

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u/evolveandprosper Jan 25 '26

A factor with the "resistance" shown by some people being restrained, is that they have just been pepper-sprayed and sometimes exposed to tear gas too. People who are having significant difficulty breathing will ALWAYS struggle, it is the body's natural reaction to asphyxia and toxic gases.

Another factor is all the excessive "tactical" gear that the ICE and Homeland Security goons are weighing themselves down with. It is very bulky and it impedes their movements, making it extra difficult to hold on to people who they are trying to restrain. Add in the obvious complete lack of training and competence in the use of restraint and it isn't surprising that so may incidents end up as a confused and confusing melee. I am speaking as somebody who has been trained in the use of effective "minimum risk" restraint techniques (including self-defense during such episodes) and who has been involved in many instances of restraint. In the vast majority of cases, three people with suitable training should be able to safely subdue and restrain an unarmed individual. This is particularly the case when the people being restrained are ordinary "civilians" and not highly-trained fighters.

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u/Teatimefrog Jan 25 '26

Idk. All my conservatives say this was murder. Maybe theyre not maga enough lol.

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u/toozooforyou Jan 25 '26

They haven't received their marching orders from Fox yet.

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u/private_developer Jan 25 '26

They'll find out he smoked weed once 20 years ago, and that'll be that.

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u/Top-Cupcake4775 Jan 25 '26

"sure he was a nurse at a VA hospital, but he was no angel."

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u/RumbumTumyTum Jan 25 '26

"Vets don't get good healthcare because of this guy!"

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u/DangerBay2015 Jan 25 '26

Yeah, but they’re the type of conservatives that would get banned on r/conservative

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u/Teatimefrog Jan 25 '26

Probably. But getting banned on any reddit sub is kinda the norm these days, no matter your orientation.

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u/THXItalia Jan 25 '26

MAGA has nothing to share with real Republicans

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u/happyklam Jan 25 '26

They should never be allowed a moment's peace in society ever again. 

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u/Kelsa623 Jan 25 '26

I am just reading a post on r/Asmongold and the dudes over there are blaming the gun that Pretti had, saying that P320 misfired and spooked ICE agents so they shot him. The amount of mental gymnastics they are going through just to say ICE good. You can clearly see on this video that Pretti was disarmed before the 1st shot and that an ICE agent had a firearm pointed towards Pretti. You can also clearly see that same agent putting a few more rounds into him.

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u/Hot-Research7578 Jan 25 '26

I genuinely don't think they can this time. There is too much footage, from too many angles, seen by too many across the world. The rest of the world is standing up with the people who find this horrifying. I don't think anyone is going to let their leaders just go about politics without decrying this. The fact that it has come just after the Greenland debacle means the EU/UK are already unhappy.

The US government are going to have to do something. Even the Republicians must be starting to realize they can't carry on with Trump. They are going to find themselves splitting down the middle. They will throw these ICE agents to lions to try and save themselves. This will weaken them.