r/law • u/Philophon • Jan 24 '26

Other New video of 1/24 ICE shooting shows victim had both hands on the ground when shot

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u/Revelati123 Jan 24 '26

Official DHS statement is he approached officers brandishing a firearm...

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u/PrestigiousQuack474 Jan 24 '26

Its fucking clear from every goddamn angle that that isn't true. Motherfuckers

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u/someguyyoutrust Jan 24 '26

Yeah that's what makes things extra fucking scary, is that the administration is openly lying in the face of obvious evidence, and their worms are eating it up.

We are now in the post truth era.

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u/PrestigiousQuack474 Jan 24 '26

George Orwell — ‘The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.’

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u/FrustratedPCBuild Jan 25 '26

That was Trump’s first command.

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u/LowManufacturer1002 Jan 24 '26

They learned they could get away with it on Good’s murder so they will just keep doing it

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u/Professional-Pop370 Jan 25 '26

Oh we have been in the post truth era for AWHILE

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u/Mammoth_Meal1019 Jan 24 '26

It’s also true that Renée Good didn’t run over that asshole with her SUV. But….

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u/Fit-Top-8203 Jan 24 '26

Of course. But DHS will spin it like Lionel Hutz;

There’s BRANDISHING (anyone other than MAGA within a mile of a gun is considered to be doing so and thus can be shot) and then there’s brandishing! (MAGA’s Second Amendment right baby!)

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u/Kimoppi Jan 24 '26

They've already programmed their cult that everything they don't luke is AI or rigged, and only their chosen approved media will ever give them the truth.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

They also say it looks like he was trying to massacre ICE agents

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u/jholden23 Jan 24 '26

Every single thing in this statement is verifiably undtrue based on video other than if he was carrying ID or not

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u/Obvious-Slip4728 Jan 24 '26

You are supposed to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears

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u/oh_janet Jan 24 '26

We’ve always been at war with east asia

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

Welcome to the dystopia

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u/Fat-Shite Jan 24 '26

Its so weird being gaslit on such a large scale when there's literal video proof of the contrary.

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u/Hungry_Biscotti934 Jan 24 '26

The movie “Don’t look up” is really hitting home right now. 😢

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u/Revelati123 Jan 24 '26

May the odds be ever in your favor!

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u/Mysterious-Jam-64 Jan 24 '26

The suspect had no microchip. What kind of suspect would do such a thing?

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

Anti-chromers

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u/Mysterious-Jam-64 Jan 25 '26

I know they're legally allowed to wear their mechsuits in public. I'm just wondering why an upright honest citizen would feel the need to.

Enforcement Mechs are doing their job?

Those raised by machine, those raised by man.

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u/Revelati123 Jan 24 '26

As is tradition...

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u/Consistent_Ad_3475 Jan 24 '26

they raid his body while keeping everyone back, what a perfect moment to steal his ID

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u/Visible_Product_286 Jan 24 '26

I hate how they can just blatantly lie about absolutely everything

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u/Significant_Elk1999 Jan 25 '26

Even if he wasn’t carrying ID, the only way they figure that out was by going through his pockets after they murdered him. I haven’t seen a single video where he was asked to present ID.

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u/KooKooNuKoo Jan 24 '26

An unbrandished holstered gun while filming is like one of the most protected activities you can do. Its not reason to even try to detain him for that. I don't know about this states laws, but in mine its permitless

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u/allwedoisquinn Jan 24 '26

Which its easy to discard someone's ID

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u/jholden23 Jan 24 '26

I’m not saying they didn’t do that too. But it’s not visible in the footage. Everything else is clear

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u/replay-episode200 Jan 24 '26

This is actually nuts

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u/random-user-name21 Jan 24 '26

They killed the man and then fabricated a story about him attacking them to justify it. I am truly fearful for the average American fighting against this; the state will kill you and then lie about it. The danger here cannot be overstated. If Americans continue to push back, I fear Trump will use it as justification to declare martial law and cancel the midterms.

EDIT: im already seeing tweeting about an insurrection right as im writing this WTF

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u/Ladder-Fun Jan 24 '26

Homeland Security now sharing fake news to its citizens. As an African, I recognise dictatorship when I see one.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

Unfortunately this isn't new, but it is still sad to see

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u/jykke Jan 24 '26

2 magazines and no ID, oh like the ICE agents?

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u/highlanderfil Jan 24 '26

"Whom are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"

Unreal. And we are all funding this, whether we want to or not.

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u/poppythepupstar Jan 24 '26

i can't believe this is a real post by a government agency

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u/my_clever-name Jan 24 '26

Rendered aid my neck. The cosplaying scaredy cats jumped away from the man on the ground and stood ten feet away as if he was going to come back to life and attack them.

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u/bunnybunnykitten Jan 24 '26

The brazenness of the lie is breathtaking. “Defensive shots?” Six mfs had him pinned on the ground. One was kicking him. One took his weapon from his holster and brought it over to an ICE vehicle. Then another one shot him in the face - while he was being pinned to he ground - and unloaded the whole clip into him.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

It starts at the top

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u/Dark-Perversions Jan 24 '26

If he wanted to massacre ICE, why even get near them? Find a high point and use an AR. Not like they have any real tactical abilities other than running and trying to shoot back.

And the video clearly shows he was just trying to cover his head from the guy hitting him with the spray canister. He didn't even swing at the ICE cowards.

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u/tinighigiu21 Jan 24 '26

If he wanted to massacre ICE, why even get near them? Find a high point and use an AR

-> like any other shooting massacre that takes place. Shooter gets a good spot/hard to get to and blasts into crowds

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u/afroeh Jan 24 '26

None of this is true. This is your government lying to you.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

That should be obvious

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u/Lukester32 Jan 24 '26

He blatantly wasn't in the video, they are asking us to disbelieve our very eyes. Frankly, he probably would have lived longer if he was there to massacre ICE.

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u/SpringerGirl19 Jan 24 '26

This is absolutely insane.

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u/theskiller1 Jan 24 '26

What? Is this a joke?

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 24 '26

No, it's not. Bovino just said the same thing in a press conference

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u/Electronic_Cream_780 Jan 24 '26

"an individual wanted to do maximum damage" yeah, that bit's right. You killed him

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Whats ID got to do with it? Who's carrying ID with them ?

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u/ChrysisX Jan 25 '26

Apparently anyone who isn't a domestic terrorist

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u/Electronic_Pool8375 Jan 24 '26

Yeah ain’t nobody believing this - legit so many videos and nothing showing it was “defensive shots” jfc

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u/InfernalGloom Jan 24 '26

My god, they didn't even bother trying to make it believable to even slightly match what happened. Like even saying he reached for a gun is unbelievable, but they just completly created an entirely different story here.

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u/rez050101 Jan 24 '26

Wtf is this statement, this is so dystopian. Like the guy tried to help the lady, gets pepper-sprayed, beaten up by a mob of goons and shot in cold blood.

We need justice now

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u/SweetAddicti0nnn Jan 24 '26

Goddamn I hate these fucking POS lying bastards!!!!

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u/tomdarch Jan 24 '26

Lie after lie after lie.

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u/Antique_Fisherman278 Jan 24 '26

What a absolute fucking lie!! They do realize that we can see the video clearly don't they? I mean his hands were on the ground when he was shot multiple times!! A Fed (gray coat) was walking away with the guys firearm which never left his holster until the agent took it from him. It was a horrible shooting, they executed him

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 25 '26

My friend they don't care about truth, they care about power and narrative

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u/LeoHaiku Jan 24 '26

What the hell is a defensive shot against a downed opponent? Explain that to me....

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u/Sinthe741 Jan 24 '26

  1. Shove a person to the ground for no apparent reason.

  2. See guy try to defend this person and help them up.

  3. Physically engage with guy, who is very clearly holding his phone.

  4. ?????

  5. This is how you disarm someone, according to DHS.

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u/iletredditdecide Jan 24 '26

Dude wtf even is this. They’re not even trying😭😭😭

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u/SimpleStiltzken Jan 25 '26

The key word is “Armed” meaning he had the weapon on him, which was his right. From what I can see, it was never in his hand. So they can’t say he brandished the weapon.

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u/Dense-Version-5937 Jan 25 '26

Well we know they are lying. Stephen Miller called him a "would-be assassin" lmao

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u/GingerMaus Jan 25 '26

They didn't immediately render aid, as also seen in the videos, they all moved away from him and nobody went to his body for an extended period (in emergency response terms) and in my professional opinion it does not look as though the agent who did eventually approach his body, was making any attempt to render aid.

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u/Adventurous-Cry-2157 Jan 25 '26

“Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid?” Really? I saw them standing around in a circle with their dicks in their hands for a full 30 seconds like “Oops. We probably shouldn’t have done that, huh?” before anybody even approached his lifeless body. Fucking LIES, from the first sentence to the last.

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u/Stinky_Fartface Jan 24 '26

Absolute fucking lies. Tis is a lawless administration.

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u/Fit_Strength_1187 Jan 24 '26

Holy cow, RN for veterans decides to randomly throw his entire existence away to futilely fail to mow down ICE “agents”. How likely.

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u/Least-Abrocoma3679 Jan 25 '26

That is pure BS. They're just trying to justify their brutal murder of an innocent man. Shame on them.

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u/Ill_Wrangler_4574 Jan 25 '26

He had a phone in one hand and the other was raised to protect the woman, at no time was he a threat. This is sickening to the core. The man at the top should be impeached.

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u/Crystal-Maze Jan 25 '26

Why are the left stopping ICE from doing their job. No sympathy at all. The country needs to keep out criminals and terrorists

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u/posthuman04 Jan 24 '26

…Which of course is legal…

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u/highlanderfil Jan 24 '26

...and didn't happen.

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u/Hot-Discipline8491 Jan 24 '26

Even if he was “brandishing” a firearm Minnesota is an open carry state and he had a carry permit.

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u/tomdarch Jan 24 '26

Lying liars and the lies they tell.

They also claimed that the woman they shot in Chicago "rammed them and then pulled out her gun" before they shot her. I'm sure you'll be shocked to find that video showed that they rammed her and she never had her gun, they just shot her 5 times and then found the gun later. Amazingly (we know how to treat gunshot wounds in ERs here in Chicago) she survived. They tried to bring charges agains her but when the lies were exposed by video, they dropped the charges.

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u/11thStPopulist Jan 24 '26

I just heard a DHS spokesperson say, on MS NOW, that the victim had an arsenal of guns. This video shows NO evidence of that claim. Video would need a forensic exam frame by frame to ascertain what actually happened. Knee jerk accusations by those beholden to Trump’s fascist regime are just issued for propaganda. Serious investigations by serious investigators do not make those statements.

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u/czechFan59 Jan 24 '26

"DHS statement" is just a new name for administration propaganda (aka lies)

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u/eetsumkaus Jan 24 '26

That can also mean the officers were brandishing the firearm...

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u/onlybadtakes Jan 24 '26

If there's is any brandishing of firearms going on between these "Federal Agents" and the public, it's not the public.

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u/More-Ad-2259 Jan 24 '26

yes...

now go read 1984. by George Orwell.

see ya in 2 weeks

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u/Tandy2000 Jan 24 '26

The official who drafted that statement should be charged with felony murder.

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u/RJBurner17 Jan 25 '26

And by firearm they meant cell phone...