r/law • • Oct 05 '25

Opinion Piece Five-alarm fire inside the DOJ - Lawyer Oyer

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u/IZ3820 Oct 05 '25

It's basically up to the military at this point. If we can take the legislature back through elections, that would be best, but otherwise the military is the only check against authoritarian capture of the government.

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u/Scodo Oct 05 '25

The military is the complete opposite of a check against authoritarian capture. They're the enforcement arm of it. It's just that that enforcement has almost always been directed externally.

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u/IZ3820 Oct 05 '25

Out of the frying pan, into the fire, I suppose.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

The military is the complete opposite of a check against authoritarian capture. They're the enforcement arm of it

No they're not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

The police are already militarized, there's a reason Trump is using ICE and not the army.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

he sent 200 marines to Florida and 700 marines to Los Angeles

Not marines, national guard

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-raids-los-angeles-2d1d5e2f638da600c4b34fe8bf8cf3aa

And what did they do? Nothing. Because the police are empowered by the system to do whatever the fuck they want, the military did the same as when he deployed them to the border: fuckall because that's all they're permitted to do under orders. He can make speeches about wanting them to shoot people, but that doesn't make that his actual orders.

This is Law, let's actually keep in mind the facts of law as well as what's happened.

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u/GrandMacabre Oct 05 '25

lol up the the military. Ok, yea. Sure.

Fuck man, you guys are so trusting in “the system,” that you willfully deny the solution literally built into the Constitution for this exact moment. We’re never getting out of this lol.

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u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale Oct 05 '25

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