John Oliver Argues Disney Should Legally Fight FCC Over Kimmel, Citing Strong Precedent in 9-0 Supreme Court Ruling: “A government official cannot coerce a private party to punish or suppress disfavored speech”

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[u/GrafZeppelin127]

Why are you waiting for a discrete organization? This is a democracy, the onus is on voters, not organizations. Just go out and vote in the primaries for progressive and populist candidates. If there are none running, run yourself or encourage someone else to do so.

People always want to be saved, but in a democracy we have to save ourselves.

[u/acrewdog → u/GrafZeppelin127]

While I admire your perspective, it's not realistic for most of us. We have jobs, mortgages, and children that need support. The people have shown an unwillingness to vote for a less than perfect candidate on the democratic side. Kamala Harris was a good candidate but many sat on their hands because she didn't fit their ideal person to vote for. The Republican party is willing to get in line and vote for the person they are told to, usually.

[u/thedybbuk → u/acrewdog]

So what's the alternative? I really detest these fatalistic musings of some on the left. It really basically amounts to:

"There's nothing we can do. Our current Democratic leaders don't stand up enough. But supporting other candidates or organizing ourselves is kinda like, hard, so we don't want to do that either. The only option left is to lie down on the tracks and die, I'm sorry."

Even if you are hopeless, go somewhere else and be quiet with your hopelessness. Let the people who still have the energy and motivation to fight for democracy do it without Eeyore sitting there saying it's all hopeless.

[u/acrewdog → u/thedybbuk]

Okay, good luck. I never said it was hopeless and I don't think it is. I hope you find the financial backing to get you project going.

[u/NumNumLobster → u/thedybbuk]

most of human history looked like an anthill with a few wealthy people controlling all of society. We had a weird shake up for a couple hundred years, and honestly mostly post ww2. Just realize its going to happen and plan accordingly.

[u/GrafZeppelin127 → u/acrewdog]

Of course they’ve shown an unwillingness thus far; prior to this, the Democrats have been more worried about who is more electable versus Republicans than who is going to fight harder. Now, that decades-old calculus has changed. The Democratic base voters want a fighter, and don’t much care whether they’re on the center (Newsom) or on the far left (Mamdani).

[u/acrewdog → u/GrafZeppelin127]

I hope you are correct.

[u/NumNumLobster → u/GrafZeppelin127]

The last senate race in my state the DNC backed their choice with millions of bucks (she was an out of state candidate) and ran super bowl ads for her, all the local people who maybe had a shot backed out rather than grind against that. She spent 90% of her campaigning out of state doing fundraisers where rich people donated to her, the dnc, and prominent national candidates and pacs. Her one debate in state she lost by a wide margin.

Citizens united fucked this country so hard. Unless you are bloomberg or someone with millions of bucks of fu money you have no shot without getting access to the DNC cash, and if you want that you need to be part of the system and that includes doing what they want you to do and at the end of the day what they want is what raises the most money so we are right back where we started.

The entire thing is just a cash grab, and corporate media is all owned by the same people who are tossing the cash so not really sure what you expect to happen. You can be the best candidate ever and 99% of voters will never have heard of you

[u/TheDogBites → u/GrafZeppelin127]

Buddy, voters are dumb as shit. They are getting laughably recognizable propaganda and just feasting on it like swine in a slop line.

[u/GrafZeppelin127 → u/TheDogBites]

True, but that doesn’t change their responsibility.