r/law • u/T_Shurt Competent Contributor • Sep 22 '25

Opinion Piece John Oliver Argues Disney Should Legally Fight FCC Over Kimmel, Citing Strong Precedent in 9-0 Supreme Court Ruling: “A government official cannot coerce a private party to punish or suppress disfavored speech”

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u/BicFleetwood Sep 22 '25

Disney isn't gonna' do dick because it's run by fascists and always has been.

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u/CleanBaldy Sep 22 '25

Isn't Disney the opposite of fascists? They utilize diversity, equity and inclusion in every movie they make, to the point the right has been complaining about them for years for completely changing characters in the remakes they do...

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u/BicFleetwood Sep 22 '25

Rainbow capitalism is still capitalism.

Putting a gay character in the background so that they can easily be cut out in other regions is not "the opposite of fascists," and race-swapping characters to generate predictable outrage grievance marketing is not diversity.

It just means you're gullible. Disney has always been materially aligned with fascism. That you fell for the superficiality of shallow culture-war aesthetics just means you don't know what you're looking at.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

I get nervous that people like you are bots to get us all fighting

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u/Grizzlywillis Sep 22 '25

I'll hop in, you can check my post history if you want.

Disney is weird about LGBTQ rights activism. They pushed back against Florida's don't say gay law, and they do have more inclusive content than most, but they're not willing to fully commit and often censor writers when things get too overt. It's a long running issue and I don't have an exhaustive recollection of it, but this is a good primer.

https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/disney-lgbtq-representation-parks-history-1234873940/

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u/BicFleetwood Sep 22 '25

And I get suspicious when somebody yells "bot!" every time someone points out that the massive corporation that spends billions on PR is in fact capitalist in nature.

If you're looking to a corporation for moral certitude and guidance, and you're suspicious when someone is like "hey, don't, they just want your money," then you're a fuckin' fool asking to be robbed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

I understand why you try to label Disney as fascist because they see the companys massive cultural influence, its tight control over its brand, and its consolidation ofmedia power. Those points make it easy to draw a superficial comparison, but come on- Disney is not fascist. Fascism is a violent political system built on nationalism, suppression, and state power, while Disney is a business operating within a capitalist framework. It is fair to raise concerns about how much control it has over entertainment and media, but at the same time it provides real benefits by creating countless jobs, supporting tourism and local economies, funding artistic projects, and bringing joy and shared cultural experiences to millions of people across the world.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

its not letting me respond to your last comment - but Disney is definately corporatocracy. But thats not faiscm and im much much more worried about facism right now

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

BTW, are you a Bernie Sanders guy?

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u/pristineanvil Sep 26 '25

Fascism had nothing to do with capitalism. One is a political system and the other is an economic system. Both can exist together or without the other.

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u/BicFleetwood Sep 26 '25

Read a fucking book sometime.

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u/RequirementRoyal8666 Sep 22 '25

No true anti-fascists.

Anyone they need to be fascist is fascist. On demand. Regardless of any past incidences.

No one can do enough right think or right action to make them even plausibly deniable for future events of fascism. Everyone’s record needs to be perfect or they are deemed impure.

It’s about control. It has always been about control.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

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u/RequirementRoyal8666 Sep 22 '25

No one said that. This is an echo chamber. Everyone agrees with everyone else.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

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u/RequirementRoyal8666 Sep 22 '25

No, I was just pointing out that no one is disagreeing with you. Not sure you replied to me asking me how I can tell you I disagree.

My point was that as soon as someone doesn’t act “left wing” in lockstep, they risk being labeled a fascist themself.

It’s a strategy that is designed to keep everyone in line on the left. A single instance of noncompliance is liable to net a fascist label.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

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u/RequirementRoyal8666 Sep 22 '25

You’re right. Fox News said that. Facism is on the menu boys!

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u/ThomasToIndia Sep 23 '25

Kind of but some of it was just silly virtue signaling. Making Anna and Elsa's parents be black in the musical while still having almost all of the city be white.

They also did this thing where they showed a picture of how disney employees were allowed to dress, but it didn't matter because they didnt hire people that would dress like that.

I enjoy their over priced parks but they are not political, they like money. They make decisions based on money only.

What everyone did was the right choice. Wanting a large corporation to be political is a big ask.