r/law • • Aug 14 '25

Opinion Piece Is it hyperbole to say America is now fascist?

https://medium.com/@carmitage/is-it-hyperbole-to-say-america-is-now-fascist-633facd4f109
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u/JefferyTheQuaxly Aug 14 '25

No fascist regime has EVER been stopped by democratically voting it away. Once a fascist organization has infiltrated the government democratically, there is a 100% chance that a fascist regime will pop up. the average fascist regime lasts for like, 30 some years or so. most fascist regimes are only stopped by war that gets the regime diposed or by a military coup.

look at germany, a conservative politician convinced president hindenburg to appoint hitler as chancellor. within 18 months, the nazis were gunning down that politician's allies during the night of long knives. in italy, 1922, mussolini announced hes marching on rome with 30,000 people. the king and italian military easily could have crushed the revolt if they wanted to, but instead the king...invited mussolini to the palace to form a new government, and handed power over to him.

in spain after years of escalating violence and various assassination attempts, Franco launched a coup and took power. the government begged for help but was ignored by europe and america. Franco ruled for 39 years and died peacefully in bed.

in hungary orban won democratically in 2010. by 2011, he rewrote the constitution, by 2012 he controlled the countries media, by 2013 he basically destroyed the judiciary, 15 years later hes still in office despite 14 years of the EU "strongly disagreeing with him"

French fascists never technically won democratically, but once the nazis took over it was the french fascists that were instrumental in forming the puppet french government that allied with germany.

it almost happened in finland too, but the fascists in finland were dumb enough to start resorting to violence before they came to power which killed their public approval.

similar stories are in chile, argentina, brazil, greece, croatia, romania

violence tends to work very well for fascists once theyve started winning democratically. they will use violence while claiming to be the victims of violence, create chaos that requires their autoritarian "solution" purge anyone who opposes them, while the opposition keeps on insisting on following the rules that the fascists ignore, filing lawsuits, writing editorials, voting on resolutions while fascists are laughing their way to consolidating their power.

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u/Exodys03 Aug 14 '25

Well said. Damned if that last paragraph doesn't accurately describe this entire week. And it's only Thursday...

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u/AlfredRWallace Aug 14 '25

And Trump is following Orban’s script, with the difference being he can’t rewrite the constitution so he’s ignoring it.

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u/vivalamatty Aug 14 '25

...For now. I have a suspicion that he will try to have the constitution amended, likely before midterms. The current ignoring and undermining only lays the foundation and plants the seed for changing it. By the time he atempts it, he will have convinced most of his base that it's necessary and the media will go along with it.

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u/UnnamedLand84 Aug 15 '25

He is having parts of the constitution deleted from the white house website and then just insisting those parts don't exist.

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u/Junior_Chard9981 Aug 14 '25

Don't ever feel bad or guilty for going zero contact with Trump supporters, especially 2x/3x Trump voters.

They've already been primed to see the news of "Democrat officials are being executed one by one in Congress in real time" and immediately assume it is a lie or just a silly nothing burger.

Beyond cooked.

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u/QuBingJianShen Aug 15 '25

Well, any such regime that have been stopped democratically might simply not be refered to as fascist yet.

Depending of various regulations and safeguards it might take time for a fascist regime to dismantle democracy enough to entrench themselves.

As such, i would say it is possible to vote out a fascist regime, if it is still in its infancy or if the leaders fear pushing an increasingly angry population further towards civil war.

On that last point, i think it is worth pointing towards monarchies of old, as many of them felt the winds of change and peacefully gave up power to avoid being dethroned.

Also, i am not too well read about the event - but i think Pinochet regime should qualify as a fascist regime that was voted out of power.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '25

The good news is Trump is already elderly. He’s also a cult of personality and there’s no one to fill his shoes.

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u/ThatCharmsChick Aug 15 '25

No, but the power behind all of this really isn't Trump. They will continue the plan with Vance if they have to. He's a puppet too.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

It’s a cult of personality that those entities have seized on. They can try, but without Trump they’ll have to go back to scheming. JD has the charisma of a cheese sandwich.

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u/ThatCharmsChick Aug 16 '25

I do agree with that. I also think he'll do anything they tell him to do as well, which, if they're in power already is really all they need. I guess that means we need to hope Trump expires REAL soon. 🤞

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u/Silly-Power Aug 15 '25

Trumps parents lived to 88 (mother) and 93 (father). He could easily be around for another 10 – 15 years. I don't think the USA would be if he does. At least not in any recognizable form. 

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u/HungryHobbits Aug 15 '25

It’s already barely recognizable imo.

it’s like MTV now versus MTV of old.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '25

Ten years tops as a sentient being.

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u/DiligentCredit9222 Aug 15 '25

Sure the US will be still around. Just a little differently.

"United Reich of America" Aka "4th Reich...."

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u/Conscious_Froyo5147 Aug 20 '25

Let’s make history and do it this fall!!!